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cemkarakurt
09-19-2008, 08:44 PM
OK lads my english very bad just bigan whit.

this ida is not a cheap to get the items what we need for. cary on to read now.

This my ida and plane.

fist we need to make cell like this -nnn+nnn-nnn+nnn- gaps are 4mm use 316 stenless still size 12cm by 22cm make is one cell unit of 50 sheed stanless still.

up to hire i spent £270 pounds thas inculuding cell box

move on

get you self a 12v to 24 inverter from ebay about 1000w

then get you self a 100 amp mms welder whit swich you can ajust amp

any oil cooler radiator which is made from still aprox 300 to 400 cm by 15 to 25 cm size

and 12v water pump same thing simeler to this link

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Used-Shurflo-Water-Pump-12V-for-Caravan-Motorhome-RV_W0QQitemZ250296571289QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item25 0296571289&_trkparms=72%3A12|39%3A2|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ebayphotohosting

now you got full kit
the way to connection
battery
inverter
welder
cell
bubbler
flash back
into engin

water pump
radiator
in to cell to cool the water
but make shour you put the radiator out side the car if is posubul use one fane to cool the radiator faster.

if any one set this unit let me know and let see wat sort of thing can hapen
i am useing it now my prodaction at the moment is 20L per min. whit 50 amp on 24 volt
and i made swich to shot the petrol pump and i have that all most 90mph in motorway in M1. up to 65mph power is more than petrol after 70 mph is very low but i dont care becouse i dont use motorway a lot. by the way my car is honda accourd 20L vtec 2001 model.
and about the o2 sensor i just disabled them i removeit from place and i put on the out side of maniyfold becouse i dont need o2 sensor if i am runing on 100% on water .
JUST BE CARFULL ALL OF THE WIREING MUST BE SEILD AN US STRUNG WIRES AND AFTER WELDER USE VERY HIY AMP HOUSEHOLD WIRE.

i have just came from holeday and i dont have any job at the moment to bu camera to take same picturs or recourt film about it soon as i got a job whit my fist wege i will be buying camera. then uploud to youtube.

all af this thins are cost me aprox £700 pounds

mytoyotasucks
09-20-2008, 12:53 AM
my brother wants to do the same, he bought an old chevy with a V8, and had it running un just hydrogen which came in a bottle from a welding shop, and it only lasted 20 min, and cost $60, and this is a 5' tall bottle.

i dont know if he can get a cell to run a car completly, but he's going to try.

cemkarakurt
09-21-2008, 01:01 AM
my brother wants to do the same, he bought an old chevy with a V8, and had it running un just hydrogen which came in a bottle from a welding shop, and it only lasted 20 min, and cost $60, and this is a 5' tall bottle.

i dont know if he can get a cell to run a car completly, but he's going to try.

ok lad i have than this thing and is just going max 90mph power is good up to 35mph but hu cares about is no petrol thats main thing!

resago
09-24-2008, 12:34 PM
? Huh?????

JonDoh
09-26-2008, 06:28 AM
^^^^^ :confused: DOUBLE HUH?? :confused: ^^^^^

mytoyotasucks
09-26-2008, 01:43 PM
^^^^^ :confused: DOUBLE HUH?? :confused: ^^^^^

he's just saying how cares how fast it goes as long as he doesnt use gas or diesel just HHO.

hhonewbie
09-30-2008, 06:25 PM
cemkarakurt

Im intrigued but not convinced yet...
Is this a HHO booster or a compressed supply of hydrogen?
Whats the size and configuration of your cell/cells?

mytoyotasucks
09-30-2008, 07:00 PM
cemkarakurt

Im intrigued but not convinced yet...
Is this a HHO booster or a compressed supply of hydrogen?
Whats the size and configuration of your cell/cells?

this tread is to see if someone has or has plans to do so.

for me and my brother so far we have been using compressed gas.

hhonewbie
10-01-2008, 04:30 PM
this tread is to see if someone has or has plans to do so.

for me and my brother so far we have been using compressed gas.
Do you & your bro generate & compress your own gas or purchase compressed tanks?

mytoyotasucks
10-01-2008, 06:29 PM
Do you & your bro generate & compress your own gas or purchase compressed tanks?

we purchase compressed tanks.
but we plan to run a car on hydroxy alone.

hanker886
10-01-2008, 07:37 PM
How many psi you plan to go? I herd people saying if you compress HHO to 15psi, it might self ignite.




we purchase compressed tanks.
but we plan to run a car on hydroxy alone.

mytoyotasucks
10-01-2008, 10:37 PM
How many psi you plan to go? I herd people saying if you compress HHO to 15psi, it might self ignite.


I dont know yet, still working on our assist units first. - one step at a time.

admin
10-03-2008, 11:38 AM
What's the point of the inverter and welder? Stepping up the voltage won't increase production, your amperage will stay the same, I'm pretty sure.

naveed
10-09-2008, 01:37 PM
I'm interested in starting this project. If anyone has any ideas or plans to get this going pm me. I live in the NJ area and would be willing to try this on a car.

mytoyotasucks
10-09-2008, 05:24 PM
well i have a car and modded a carb for this, and have bought the hose I'm going to use to get the gas from the trunk.

trying to find a very large poly(plastic) rectangle water proof box.

hg2
10-10-2008, 09:05 AM
my brother wants to do the same, he bought an old chevy with a V8, and had it running un just hydrogen which came in a bottle from a welding shop, and it only lasted 20 min, and cost $60, and this is a 5' tall bottle.

i dont know if he can get a cell to run a car completly, but he's going to try.

Do you know how many liters of h2 gas was in the tank you used?

mytoyotasucks
10-10-2008, 12:11 PM
Do you know how many liters of h2 gas was in the tank you used?

I know(hopefully) that a V8 needs 1.2 - 1.7 LPM to idle and 4 - 10 LPM to run.



know if some one think this is wrong, please correct me, cause my one loflow flow meter was out, and im not sure about the GPH meter, havent tested either since.

Thanx D

hg2
10-11-2008, 05:33 AM
Before you go any further with running you car on just hydroxy you might want to look at this doc first.Start at the bottom of page 214.

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Hydroxy%20Boosters.pdf

cemkarakurt
10-11-2008, 11:24 PM
Before you go any further with running you car on just hydroxy you might want to look at this doc first.Start at the bottom of page 214.

http://www.panaceauniversity.org/Hydroxy%20Boosters.pdf

in my car i am using hho and i getting about 45-47 mpg whitout hho i was getting 22-26 mpg in highway about 70mph 55 mpg i getting whitout hho 47 mpg
so ther is a big difrance

cemkarakurt
10-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Do you & your bro generate & compress your own gas or purchase compressed tanks?

guYs DO NOT TRAY TO COMPRESS THE HHO BY YOUR SELF OWER 15 PSI IT BLOW YOU SELF UP AND BY THE WAY WHEN YOU COMPESING THE HHO YOU NEED BELLOW -100C. TO FREEZ THE HHO THEN COMPRESS IT SO YOU DONT HAVE THAT FASILTY DON'T TRAY TO DO IT! I MEEN IT YOU WILL BLOW YOUR HOME HORK LIVE WATEVER DON'T TRAY IT:eek:
MY FREND IN TURKEY DID TRAY AND HE IS DEAD NOW IN KONYA GOOGLE IT YOU WILL SEE THE NEWS IN 2004 07

cemkarakurt
10-11-2008, 11:57 PM
What's the point of the inverter and welder? Stepping up the voltage won't increase production, your amperage will stay the same, I'm pretty sure.
LOOK AT THIS
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6000W-Peak-3000W-Power-Inverter-12V-to-220-240V-NEW-08_W0QQitemZ110297217614QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item11 0297217614&_trkparms=72%3A1301|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A13 18&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

HANK
12-16-2008, 12:44 AM
my brother wants to do the same, he bought an old chevy with a V8, and had it running un just hydrogen which came in a bottle from a welding shop, and it only lasted 20 min, and cost $60, and this is a 5' tall bottle.

i dont know if he can get a cell to run a car completly, but he's going to try.

This gives us a good idea of how much hydrogen is needed.

What type of vehicle was he running?

Was it at idle the entire 20 minutes?

How much hydrogen was in that container?

mytoyotasucks
12-16-2008, 01:02 AM
This gives us a good idea of how much hydrogen is needed.

What type of vehicle was he running?

Was it at idle the entire 20 minutes?

How much hydrogen was in that container?

when i say it was an old chevy v8 = 350

not just idle

was a 5' bottle of compressed hydrogen.

connectsys
05-30-2009, 03:35 AM
Are there any updates on this?

Cemkarakurt- Have you made any progress in testing this? I am very interested to see the results.

Anyone else made any more progress toward the 100% HHO yet?

Thanks,
Connectsys

mytoyotasucks
05-30-2009, 12:17 PM
Are there any updates on this?

Cemkarakurt- Have you made any progress in testing this? I am very interested to see the results.

Anyone else made any more progress toward the 100% HHO yet?

Thanks,
Connectsys

I think Cemkarakurt is gone, still trying to get a gen to run decent amp and output to make a bigger unit to produce 20 or more LPM.

connectsys
05-31-2009, 01:25 PM
I think Cemkarakurt is gone, still trying to get a gen to run decent amp and output to make a bigger unit to produce 20 or more LPM.



I was just going through the past posts and didnt see any progress and wondered where everyone was at.- I am also working on gen as well.

Thanks for the update.

-connectsys

Farmer Bobb
06-02-2009, 01:12 AM
Great thread to read! 100% HHO is the real goal. Bobb

hhonewbie
01-15-2010, 04:44 PM
This might help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSLzs_x60sM

I do not think this will be enough to run a V8 completely on HHO but maybe a 4 cyl, but it is a step in the right direction

By the time you scrub and dry all the vapour out your probably only left with around 4-6lpm pure HHO not to mention the negative gain in MPG due to the draw on the alternator

Owen_
01-16-2010, 01:07 AM
To butt in here, on-demand 100% HHO for vehicles will never be a reasonable possibility. ICE's are very inefficient, and to run them off electricity rather than using an electric motor will never be a sensible choice. Storage is the only way it would reasonably work at all, due to available batteries. I worked out the math some years back and to run my car (small) for 20min at 55mph would require car batteries that would be heavier than my car (there by decreasing mileage & requiring more batteries, thereby decreasing mileage....)

Roland Jacques
01-16-2010, 10:02 AM
By the time you scrub and dry all the vapour out your probably only left with around 4-6lpm pure HHO

2 volt per cell, 120 volts, 20 amps, at 5 LPM would only be 2.08 MMW. I think your under estamateing thier Cells a lot.
15 LPM would be 6 MMW
20 LPM would be 8 MMW

hhonewbie
01-16-2010, 02:40 PM
I think your under estamateing thier Cells a lot.

Well then go purchase the system and install it on your vehical and then tell us how much gain you get if any. Could be negative or it could be positive let us know what the out come is.:p
P.S. A video showing a whole lota bubbles and car sounds "broom broom" is lame and proves nothing.

niceweather
04-30-2011, 03:38 AM
Question; If it takes around 10 amps at 12 volts to make one litre/m hho, and a guy on utube had a suzuki 3 cyl 1000 cc idling on 5 litres/m 100% hho @ (1000 rpm), does that mean that at 5000 rpm the engine would need around 25-35 litres/m ? If so, a 4000 cc engine would need say 4 x 35 litres/m = 140 litres/m.
Ok, For my australian 245 cu/in ( 4000cc) hemi 6 cyl.
Using 140 litres/m; That equates to 120 watts x 140 = 16800 watts
/ by 12 volts = 1400 amps @ 12 volts. (highway speed / acceleration)
4 X 350 amp alternators and a suitable battery/circuit will make around 1400 amps at 12 volts.
The trunk will be full of cells, water, wiring, battery, radiators, bubblers, flame arrestors but on paper it could/should work????
Answers will be appreciated. Thanks Lok.

Roland Jacques
04-30-2011, 05:25 PM
Question; If it takes around 10 amps at 12 volts to make one litre/m hho, and a guy on utube had a suzuki 3 cyl 1000 cc idling on 5 litres/m 100% hho @ (1000 rpm), does that mean that at 5000 rpm the engine would need around 25-35 litres/m ? If so, a 4000 cc engine would need say 4 x 35 litres/m = 140 litres/m.
Ok, For my australian 245 cu/in ( 4000cc) hemi 6 cyl.
Using 140 litres/m; That equates to 120 watts x 140 = 16800 watts
/ by 12 volts = 1400 amps @ 12 volts. (highway speed / acceleration)
4 X 350 amp alternators and a suitable battery/circuit will make around 1400 amps at 12 volts.
The trunk will be full of cells, water, wiring, battery, radiators, bubblers, flame arrestors but on paper it could/should work????
Answers will be appreciated. Thanks Lok.

Some things we don't consider is the condition of their engine. (like that Suzuki) A worn out engine may take VERY little to idle. typicly a worn out engine has little internal friction. But when you put a load on it, were it has to move something, that's when they fail to measure up.

A new engine may demand a lot more HP to idle so it would need more fuel. The friction from good fitting piston rings, good high compression, high oil pressure from tight tolerances, good strong spring tension on valves...


You really can't conclude much from a engine idling. IMO

myoldyourgold
04-30-2011, 05:49 PM
One must remember that at an idle some alternators are barely producing any amperage and if you try and draw more it would stall the engine. Some produce more than others. One thing for sure is at higher amp draw you require more HP than what is produced at idle. The point is at idle the amount of hho is much smaller than at higher RPM where you are using most if not all of what you are making in HHO just to run the alternator.

vivian
06-07-2011, 06:29 AM
happy

this is the best thread I have ever read. happy to find the forum

iPkti
06-12-2011, 09:24 AM
Please, have a look to this post

http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=6274

Running H is different than running HHO.

For HHO operation requires either HHO on demand via electrolizer, bubbler for de-steam the gas and properly mix it, dryers, etc. Running on H only requires an electrolyzer but discarding the O (anode) production using a bell covering the cathode.

H can be compressed for allowing fit on a small bottle large amount of gas, but requires its cooling down -100ºC ( P*V = nRT, noble gases equation ).

In case of requiring ambient temp and pressure storing of hydrogen, this company might be useful

http://www.cellaenergy.com/

They make a tank that allows the ambient temp & pressure hydrogen storage, combining gas and H.

As stated before, storing HHO on tanks is a very UNSAFE AND DANGEROUS approach, as it selfs-ignites due static sparks (which are also created by air ionization by the wind friction, as I am sure you are aware of), apart that you have to manage the proper freezing and pressuring on a very particular way.

You may try to approach the problem by storing H and O on different tanks/bottles and combine them using valves.

That's my thought.

Please, keep posting. It's interesting. :)