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HHO BLASTER
01-21-2011, 06:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3HNrAGWoAI

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cKbOAAAAEBAJ&dq=Dan+Nocera:+Personalized+Energy



http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja106102b

HHO BLASTER
01-22-2011, 12:23 PM
Ok here is the company that is making all the claims saying they can do it 1000 times better then us sooooooooooooo if it's real there is a contact number please email them and see if they will answer back and report their emails here

i stopped playing with HHO because i see it will not work out enough to over come making it work on every engine i don't say it cannot work

THERE PATENT

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cKbOAAAAEBAJ&dq=Dan+Nocera:+Personalized+Energy



here is the info please email them

http://www.suncatalytix.com/

Contact Us

Sun Catalytix Corporation
200 Technology Square
Suite 103
Cambridge, MA 02139
Tel: (617) 374-3797
Fax: (617) 374-3793
Email: info@suncatalytix.com

Roland Jacques
01-24-2011, 05:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3HNrAGWoAI

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=cKbOAAAAEBAJ&dq=Dan+Nocera:+Personalized+Energy



http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja106102b

FWIW
The 1.5 hour youtube lecture video gets most relative to HHO at 42 minutes and really gets good at 48 minutes IMO.

Roland Jacques
01-25-2011, 04:31 PM
It looks like the CEO (the former CIA director) that Nelson has, is the same CIA director who's on the board of another ultra cheep/free energy device. ??? http://www.terawatt.com/ecm1/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=86&Itemid=181
You would think that would be a conflict. :rolleyes:

I also wonder about the Indian billionaire guy, i have to wonder about all his other energy investments...

It seems to me that there are a lot of guys are just setting on technologies. i think they just set on them until serious compaction get a little ahead of them. Then they just let out enough to give a small competitive edge.

It may be a while i hope im wrong.

HHO BLASTER
01-27-2011, 10:03 AM
It looks like the CEO (the former CIA director) that Nelson has, is the same CIA director who's on the board of another ultra cheep/free energy device. ??? http://www.terawatt.com/ecm1/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=86&Itemid=181
You would think that would be a conflict. :rolleyes:

I also wonder about the Indian billionaire guy, i have to wonder about all his other energy investments...

It seems to me that there are a lot of guys are just setting on technologies. i think they just set on them until serious compaction get a little ahead of them. Then they just let out enough to give a small competitive edge.

It may be a while i hope im wrong.

I wish they would give out enough so us little guys can play with it, you never know i was told by a guy their wasting their time, I'm sure when the first TV came out and they saw a very tiny picture that they need a microscope to see it they didn't give up, it was WW2 need for radar that pushed IT real fast.

I'M SEEING ENOUGH COMING OUT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A BREAK
THROUGH SOON, SURE IF WE PLAY WITH IT OURSELVES WE CAN BLOW OUR SELFS UP BUT I THINK IT CAN'T BE ANY WORST THEN HHO

oicu812
01-27-2011, 02:42 PM
from what little I know they're using nickel borate electrodes for the oxygen side ( not sure what he's using for the hydrogen side), But Nocera said he's not using platinium anymore, He said they found something way cheaper that works better??? The cobalt phosphate catalyst he's using, ( I may be wrong) but I think it may be Cobalt nitrate and potasium phosphate. both are water soluable and nitrate being acidic and potasium being a base might become a ph neutral solution. In surfing the net some people believe its a 1 part cobalt to 2 part phosphate mix. When electrical potential is applied the cobalt with the phosphate (acting as a binder) creates a film on the nickel borate electrode, protecting it and constantly repairing it. It seams electrodes really get abused on the oxygen side. when power is turned off the cobalt falls off the electrode and disolves back into the water.

HHO BLASTER
01-27-2011, 04:18 PM
from what little I know they're using nickel borate electrodes for the oxygen side ( not sure what he's using for the hydrogen side), But Nocera said he's not using platinium anymore, He said they found something way cheaper that works better??? The cobalt phosphate catalyst he's using, ( I may be wrong) but I think it may be Cobalt nitrate and potasium phosphate. both are water soluable and nitrate being acidic and potasium being a base might become a ph neutral solution. In surfing the net some people believe its a 1 part cobalt to 2 part phosphate mix. When electrical potential is applied the cobalt with the phosphate (acting as a binder) creates a film on the nickel borate electrode, protecting it and constantly repairing it. It seams electrodes really get abused on the oxygen side. when power is turned off the cobalt falls off the electrode and disolves back into the water.

Someone i know is calling both companies work on doing what a simple plant can do a scam, i may not have that guys education but i doubt its a scam

but i wish they would show us a video that proves what their saying as least to the point that we here would have no problem to understand

oicu812
01-27-2011, 05:10 PM
Someone i know is calling both companies work on doing what a simple plant can do a scam, i may not have that guys education but i doubt its a scam

but i wish they would show us a video that proves what their saying as least to the point that we here would have no problem to understand

I hear ya... All that crap about mimicing a plant and energy from the sun is really misleading. MIT is in the process of patenting the cobalt Phosphate catalyst. I'm afraid MIT is gonna ride the funding grant train till it derails. Aint it a shame they won't release any info so others could do research!
HHO Blaster, Do you know anything about the nickel borate alloy? I can't seam to find anything out about it or how they make it. The polymer electrodes certainly sound intresting also!