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Dry Cell, Shim Cell... Isolation Cell?
Oh well,
That's what I'm going to call it anyway. It sounds like something from the medical wing of a prison, but the idea is to isolate the two gasses from one another yet try to keep the efficiency as high as possible from the stand point of plate spacing. Before it hits the fan, let me say that this particular unit is NOT for a vehicle, but for making clean storable H2 for the farmstead and intended to be powered by a dedicated array of solar panels.
With the accidental discovery by H2OPWR of the insulative properties and durability of Weldon-16, the final hurdle for the "Isolation Cell" has been overcome. The gasket shape does the bulk of the work, but problem had been the plate thickness that was exposed to electrolyte at the inlet and outlet holes.
When I read a post this morning about a "no hole dry cell" I started wondering exactly how that was meant, then I saw the "Shim Cell" and realized that roughly the same thing was trying to be accomplished through a similar architecture though there was no attempt to separate the gasses.
I attached a .jpg of my design for evaluation. Constructive criticism only please... -Gus
OOooohhh.. that's hard to answer....
Carter, first of all, thank you. Now, hmmm... Well, if anyone has made that particular evaluation- " My question is has anybody tested the efficiency of a zero current leakage reactor system to prove that the extra work (expense) is really worth it, compared to just insulating the holes?" I am not aware of it, doesn't mean someone out there hasn't done it, just that I personally don't know. But what I can say with confidence is, it's not really all that much extra work. Did you see my short video about cutting 5 or 6 gaskets at a time with a router? Since I made that video I have figured out two important things about doing that... First is that the "keeper" side of the cut always has to be approached from the same direction, even more important on sheet PVC than wood. Second, the face plate of the router has to bear on a thin sheet of luan or aluminum or something that wont buckle or bunch under side loading. Applying the Weldon to the area of the holes on the plates only takes slightly less than a minute a plate.. The tight weave dacron for the ionic membranes would most likely be made most easily and quickly by laying two layers of the cloth between hinged or pin registered aluminum templates, weighted somewhat and then hot wire cut about their perimeter. Their holes could be plunge cut on the same template with a heated piece of coat hanger or music wire. Actually, I see it moving along rather smartly with a bit of set-up.
Insulating just the holes does not result in zero leakage. I know that the drawing I submitted still leaves a bit to the imagination, and if I was one of those super motivated people with better time management skills than I actually possess, I would do the 3-D Sketchup of it with labels and clearer overlays, so folks could get a better idea how the gaskets work in conjunction with the Weldon around and in the plates gas holes. If the Weldon truly passes no current, as I have been assured it doesn't, then there really isn't any gas production in the duct area. I can't say there might not be a small amount of current leakage, but remember to bear in mind when visualizing this particular electrolyzer -there are no neutral plates, there cannot be, as it would contaminate the output.
CNC- Man, that's what got me started..
Mr. Taylors Physical Science, 7th. grade. He had one of those "H" style cells with a 6V lantern battery hooked up to it. Then he explained what was happening and why it was happening... Nothing has ever been the same since then!
Anyway, yes.. The Isolation Cell is just a streamlined, modern day, multi-celled version of that. I honestly shouldn't call it the isolation "cell" as it actually has 20 cells.. But, "Isolated Gas Electrolyzer" is such a mouthful. -How was this used as a voltmeter? I didn't see that part:confused: -Gus