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  1. #1
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    First off... which electrolytes NOT TO USE!

    I'll compile a list of which electrolytes NOT to try, because they are harmful to yourself and other people.

    1. SALT (Sodium Chloride)

    (msg me if you have a solution to add to this list)

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    alba Guest
    I would like to know what is the consequences using salt..

  3. #3
    bagrman Guest

    salt

    one is that it will make up Chlorine gas,
    2 you are putting salt residue into your motor to burn? Don't know the long term effects that would have.

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    Problem

    Using Salt as an electrolye is not only bad, but also ineffective.

    So far the best "safe" mix I have found is 8 parts epsom salts, to 3 parts baking soda, per 2-2.5L of water.

    it is the most conductive, thus draws the most amperes, thus works the best.

    Every spoon added increased the amps drawn on the plates. Up until reached the max.

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    reason Guest

    reply to problem

    Thanks for the tip Mike.how are you measuring the parts?

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    CaptainAwesome Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP View Post
    Using Salt as an electrolyte is not only bad, but also ineffective.

    So far the best "safe" mix I have found is 8 parts epsom salts, to 3 parts baking soda, per 2-2.5L of water.

    it is the most conductive, thus draws the most amperes, thus works the best.

    Every spoon added increased the amps drawn on the plates. Up until reached the max.
    I'll have to pick up on my chemistry skills, it's been a while since I studied it, but wouldn't using baking soda produce CO2?

    Again, I'm not sure at this at all, I will really have to look it up but I'm gonna guess it goes something like this:

    2NaHCO3 + H2O + Energy(electricity?) = 2H2 + O2 + 2CO2 + 2NaH
    (or maybe = 2H2 + 2CO2 + 2NaOH?)

    ..and then in a second step the Sodium hydride (or like Na and H ions i guess) would produce some more H2, but I'm not sure what would happen to the Na in there

    If no one beats me in explaining this I think I'll find the old books and try to figure it out.


    Oh right, my point being, is it wise using an electrolyte that will make your car produce CO2 and if so, it's probably a good idea separating the H2 and O2 from the CO2 before it's combusted.

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    ENURO12 Guest
    Caustic Soda is perhaps the most commonly available and most effective. Their is another xxx E500 i'll find the full chem name.

    Their are lots of side effects of Caustic Soda so follow the warning labels!

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    ELECTR0N3RD Guest

    Question

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP View Post
    Using Salt as an electrolye is not only bad, but also ineffective.

    So far the best "safe" mix I have found is 8 parts epsom salts, to 3 parts baking soda, per 2-2.5L of water.

    it is the most conductive, thus draws the most amperes, thus works the best.

    Every spoon added increased the amps drawn on the plates. Up until reached the max.
    I'm not 100% clear on this sorry if i sound dumb but, why is epsom salt any different from regular salt?, what is it? i know women use it in a bath once in a while for there personal care, but how does it differ from regular sodium chloride? is it like sea salt?

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    Sodium Chloride (salt) releases Chlorine gas when used in an electrolyzer. Clorine gas is poinsonous, and is corrosive. Not that it would hurt you, but its not going to help either.
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    Best electrolyte

    The best I have found is potassium hydroxide. I have been running it for a couple months, and it dosen't cause rust and gunk in my jar. Tried baking soda, in 2 days so much rust you can't see the electrodes. Sodium hydroxide is better, but still causes rust. It is SOOO much nicer to just add 1/2 oz distilled once or twice a week.

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