What the hey. Does anybody have the slightest clue as to why one of these configurations would be better than another?? Less amp, more output, less heat?? I am working on prototype designs atm and would like to know what you all might have experienced up to this point. Jay
Hey man, got a bud working on the joe cell. Don't have an answer. Some one might. Good luck on getting a response any time soon. Seem's like everyone is busy and does not chek on any of this except every once in a while. What do you think about aluminum for the generator on the HHO?
Hi Fishhook ....Most of the guys on this site are working on a quick and simple way to make a fuel saving. I have been watching the Joe cell thing for years and have yet to see anything worth putting in the time and effort for. There are many specialised sites and forums for the Joe cell but alas not this one. You may be in the wrong place for your interests! As for Wingnut, who thinks nobody reads his posts, perhaps he should check how many reads he got! Maybe nobody feels qualified to answer his demanding questions? Basically we are all getting results in fuel economy in reasonable time with some effort. Experimentation is either for the people who have a cell and want more out of it or people like yourselves who want to take different avenues! Whichever it is we all share our knowledge If we have any to share...All the best
Aluminum is probably going to corrode. It isn't used in many corrosive environments because of that. With the right electrolyte, something pH neutral, it might last a while. I guess that you need to go ahead and build one and see. In my case, I have a enought 304 stainless around to build a cell or two, even though I know that it isn't as good as 316, I will use it anyway, because I want to find a configuration that wiil give me a lot of HHO with out a lot of heat. When I get to a good design, I can go buy the higher grade material and duplicate the cell. There are quite a few grades higher than 316 , bt the way, but they cost more as the level of chromium and nickel increase.
Anyway, I would just like to get to the 4.5 to 6liter per minute range, so that I too, can save some fuel. Because I own an automotive repair facility, I am just trying to confirm the viability of adding HHO in the base case. I would be perfectly happy installing units manufactured by someone other than myself. KEEP POSTING! People do read these things! Jay
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I read someplace that aluminum should not be used as the anode, but the cathode ws just fine as aluminum. Supposedly the oxygen will cause massive corrosion on the aluminum plate, but the hydrogen would not hurt it.
2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG
I love the ambitious type...well done fishhook 4.5 to 6ltrs a minute! Wow I wish. I would need a truck with 4 24volt batteries and a 36 plate cell to even start thinking of that volume! I think you should be happy with 1.5 to 2 ltrs at the mo and if you connect direct to the inlet manifold vacuum you will probably double that.....you will definately see some results then..
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Thinking in 3 dimensions, it seems to me that the Joe Cell would likely take good advantage of the eddie currents and the complete field of electricity being supplied. Im not to sure of output, temp and so on though.Originally Posted by Fishhook
I like the plates idea because of maintenance, surface area, and the ease of mounting stability. With a Joe Cell, should one of the spacers shake loose during a drive over a rough patch or heavy bump, it looks like it would short out more easly than plates...Just an observation (will have to do some experimenting)
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Its kinda cool seeing your electrodes get close enough where they short, but don't touch. They make an arc which ignites the gas its producing and looks like a miniature cutting torch under water lol.
But alas, this isn't good.
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