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    Which is the best plate configuration

    Ok... so... I'm gonna experiment with another set-up but I don't have a flowmeter.... I want to get the most HHO gas using less than 30amps.... I have about 8 plates.....

    Which would be the best configuration to get the most HHO?

    1) + n n - n n +

    2) + n n - - n n +

    3) + - + - + - + -

    4) + n - n + n -

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonDoh View Post
    Ok... so... I'm gonna experiment with another set-up but I don't have a flowmeter.... I want to get the most HHO gas using less than 30amps.... I have about 8 plates.....

    Which would be the best configuration to get the most HHO?

    1) + n n - n n +

    2) + n n - - n n +

    3) + - + - + - + -

    4) + n - n + n -

    Well that all depends on who you ask-everyone has differing opinions. Here goes-

    #1 and #2 are the same, #2 extra "-" plate only produces on one side while #1 does so on both.
    #3 produces very well, but with alot of heat and amp pull(unless a true series cell)
    #4 ? Never tried that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrotinkerer View Post
    Well that all depends on who you ask-everyone has differing opinions. Here goes-

    #1 and #2 are the same, #2 extra "-" plate only produces on one side while #1 does so on both.
    #3 produces very well, but with alot of heat and amp pull(unless a true series cell)
    #4 ? Never tried that one
    I tried #1 and #2

    #1 produced more heat for some reason on the (-) negitive terminal averaged 10 degrees more.

    #2 Is what I use on my unit which produces a minimum 1 LPM 198 sq.in. surface area w/ .0625 plate spacing.

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    From what I have been reading, the closer the plates are the less draw in terms of relative hho production. I have done 1 and 3. The 3 was a definite producer, but I wasnt using good electrolyte. Plate spacing and the concentration of electrolyte will allow you to adjust the cell for the best bang for the buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronBear View Post
    From what I have been reading, the closer the plates are the less draw in terms of relative hho production. I have done 1 and 3. The 3 was a definite producer, but I wasnt using good electrolyte. Plate spacing and the concentration of electrolyte will allow you to adjust the cell for the best bang for the buck.
    Hi IronBear,

    The #3 is mostly used for brute force type Oxyhydrogen (HHO) gas generators ( give it as much as it can take )

    I use #2 because of the "distilled white vinegar" in the Oxyhydrogen (HHO) gas generator I use. The reason being because of the .0625 plate gap and the Electrolyte being totally ECO friendly ( dump it on you and smell like a pickle and not get your skin burnt off or go blind ).

    I always go safety first, to many little kids around "eye" level and curious, couldn't live with a accident hurting anyone for just for some HHO.

    Regards,
    Fuzzy

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    JonDoh Guest
    SUPER THANKS guys for all the input!!!! Very informative!!

    I think I'm gonna go with #2 since a couple of you have tried that & seem to have some success.... I'll use vinegar & water to keep the temp down a bit. My plates aren't completely straight so I'll use two of those .062 washers in between the plates

    One of these days I'll quit being a NOOB & get me a flow meter

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    What about :

    -+-S/S wool-+-S/S wool-+-

    Use 316L flat plate for positive and perforated plate sandwiched with stainless steel wool for negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhonewbie View Post
    What about :

    -+-S/S wool-+-S/S wool-+-

    Use 316L flat plate for positive and perforated plate sandwiched with stainless steel wool for negative

    I dont know about a sandwich, but why perforated, u need as much sq" , and perforating tkes some sq" away.
    Come to the Darkside - We have Cookies
    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hhonewbie View Post
    What about :

    -+-S/S wool-+-S/S wool-+-

    Use 316L flat plate for positive and perforated plate sandwiched with stainless steel wool for negative
    A friend did the SS wool in an SS tube. It cranked out some HHO gas but the amps were running wildly!

    Looks likethe best configs are:

    +nnn-nnn+nnn-nnn+
    +nnnn-nnnn+nnnn-nnnn+

    DRY CELLS!

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    ok have tried

    1 = -+ works ok but over 160 Degrees at 21 amps - get about 0.7 LPM
    2 = -N+ works near same as one
    3 = -NN+ and 20 amp - 120 Deg and 1.4 LPM === at 28A - 1.8 LPM
    4 = -NNNNN++NNNNN- 30A - 0.8 LPM
    What happened to #4??????? why so low production??

    next i want to try #4 split into -NNNNN+ to see what happens.
    Come to the Darkside - We have Cookies
    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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