another Neutral plate question and 100% efficiency??

[jez33]

hi all,
I'm a newbie to hho and built my 1st crude hho maker..

being new to this though ive read a few others mention using positive n negative but also neutral?

what is neutral as on a battery you only have a pros n neg ?

by the way why I'm here in my research ive found a few videos of Stanley mayer click on the 2 videos if you're interrested -(http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ )

i think he mentions making a hho producer that is 100% efficient or more..he talks about a electric pulsor working on what i think was 2000 to 40,000 or even more times a second for his success

what i want to know is have any of you tried and tested his system and found it to work ???

[Painless]

Welcome to the forum!

A neutral plate is one which is not connected to the battery, other than by the current flowing through the electrolyte in the cell.

[h2ocommuter]

http://www.bobboyce.org/

Bob Boyce has made probably the best system on the market today and it is expandable, and freely duplicated, and dissiminated to anyone.
he currently has a 101 multiplate that has one p and one n and the 99 others are n.

this unit will output about 5 gallons per minuit HYDROXY "20 Liters". you can get a good education at this website. Look for the updated Aug -7-2008 d9 PDF document it has everything that could possibly in it about this system. it is a big file and I could not download it on this forum.

The Stanley Meyer WFC is hard to reproduce, you have to be really good at electronics. I probably have 25 PDF files about his systems but I am reading greek with most of the tech stuff. The best one I have is 92 mb again just too big to put here. but all of the things taken from his shop after his death has been recovered and it is hopefully going to be made available to the general public after it is aquired by

http://www.theorionproject.org/en/hydroxy.html
Reguardles of that you should duplicate any of the best systems available anywhere.


I believe the water4gas system works and it is a good place to start.
Besides there are hundreds of links that you can search from there too.

[jez33]

Welcome to the forum!

A neutral plate is one which is not connected to the battery, other than by the current flowing through the electrolyte in the cell.

thanks for replying.
so do you mean that neutral plates wont be conected to any of the other plates so not having any wires conecting to any of the other plates ?

a thanks to h2ocommuter aswell and i will read up on your input later

[Johnh]

Jezz33
yes thats exactly right. A neutral plate will not have any wire or conducting element connecting it to any other plates, including the other nuetral plates, they all MUST be electrically isolated except for the electrolyte. Be carefull that any through bolts are insulated or made of plastic or similar.
Another thing to be careful of is that the edges of the plates must be sealed together with a non conductor to reduce current bypassing the plates and running directly from + to - . Of course there has to be an area for the electrolyte to get in and the gas to escape.There is a lot of posts on the subject and many different methods. search the forum its all here. Have a google for the Bob Boyce cell, the Tero cell, and here on the forum for edges sealed with adhesive or shrink wrap for the 3 main methods.

Regards
John

[Painless]

I couldn't of said it better myself!

Thanks, johnh!

[HHOaddict]

Jezz33,
Check out the smacks design at this site. It is a good example of the use and proper spacing of neutral plates. I have built this particular cell and it's a good design to learn some of the basic principles. It also produces very well. He also has lots of videos on Youtube that are very informative.

Best of luck

http://www.smacksboosters.110mb.com/

[DaneDHorstead]

hi all,
I'm a newbie to hho and built my 1st crude hho maker..

being new to this though ive read a few others mention using positive n negative but also neutral?

what is neutral as on a battery you only have a pros n neg ?

by the way why I'm here in my research ive found a few videos of Stanley mayer click on the 2 videos if you're interrested -(http://www.waterfuelcell.org/ )

i think he mentions making a hho producer that is 100% efficient or more..he talks about a electric pulsor working on what i think was 2000 to 40,000 or even more times a second for his success

what i want to know is have any of you tried and tested his system and found it to work ???

Jez33

The one thing that was not mentioned by the others answering you, is that the neutrals work using inducted currents (a magnetic force, from the pole plates).

In the standard set up, inducted currents will drop a two volt value between each plate, and the next, so dont use more than five, or six neutrals, at a time.

And, like they told you, be certain there is no electrical contact to any of the neutral plates, and they are equally spaced between the pos, and neg end plates.

[redneckgearhead34]

http://www.bobboyce.org/

Bob Boyce has made probably the best system on the market today and it is expandable, and freely duplicated, and dissiminated to anyone.
he currently has a 101 multiplate that has one p and one n and the 99 others are n.

this unit will output about 5 gallons per minuit HYDROXY "20 Liters". you can get a good education at this website. Look for the updated Aug -7-2008 d9 PDF document it has everything that could possibly in it about this system. it is a big file and I could not download it on this forum.

The Stanley Meyer WFC is hard to reproduce, you have to be really good at electronics. I probably have 25 PDF files about his systems but I am reading greek with most of the tech stuff. The best one I have is 92 mb again just too big to put here. but all of the things taken from his shop after his death has been recovered and it is hopefully going to be made available to the general public after it is aquired by

http://www.theorionproject.org/en/hydroxy.html
Reguardles of that you should duplicate any of the best systems available anywhere.


I believe the water4gas system works and it is a good place to start.
Besides there are hundreds of links that you can search from there too.

To h2ocommuter:

I trie your link to bobboyce.com and I could not find anylinks to his pdf files. Could you please dircet me a little further

thanks