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Thread: Separate H & O? Will it make difference?

  1. #41
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    ya that was my plan but I'm thinking of changing it for a more simple design. I was thinking about something along this

    http://www.fuel-saver.org/Thread-My-H2-Generator-Plans

  2. #42
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    What if you introduce the HH behind the maf and the O infront of the maf?
    This way the fuel goes in and the O is measured.

    increasing the O coming into the intake should increase the power you get from the same amount of fuel.
    Example 1 ounce of gas pluse 14 ounces of 20% oxygen air should put out less power than 1 ounce of gas pluse 14 ounces of 100% oxygen

    Same goes for Hydrogen. Hydrogen + 100% oxygen = more power than Hydrogen and atmosphere air.

  3. #43
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    What if you introduce the HH behind the maf and the O infront of the maf?
    This way the fuel goes in and the O is measured.
    First you need to understand exactly what the MAF does.

    www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf

    It does not make a difference what is in the mix going though the MAF. It just measures the amount drawn into the engine. More going through more gas required, less going through less gas. Now there are more than one type and this is just a simple explanation. Now you can think about that a little and maybe come up with some ideas. Remember the 02 sensor when injecting HHO thinks there is more 0 in the exhaust.

    increasing the O coming into the intake should increase the power you get from the same amount of fuel.
    Example 1 ounce of gas pluse 14 ounces of 20% oxygen air should put out less power than 1 ounce of gas pluse 14 ounces of 100% oxygen

    Same goes for Hydrogen. Hydrogen + 100% oxygen = more power than Hydrogen and atmosphere air.
    There is slightly more HP but the 02 sensor still sees to much O. Why isn't the 0 completely used up when you inject HHO? Some tests show that the O is consumed more when the O and H2 are injected in different positions in the intake stream after the MAF. This makes no sense but seems to be the case based on tests I and others have done. I have no explanation though. The same can be said about why the 02 thinks there is more O. The only thing I can think of is that it is a ratio of O to other gases which are less making the O seam more. This ratio must change then when injecting the O and H2 in different spots too but in the opposite way. I have no way of proving this maybe others have more on this.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb."

    ONE Liter per minute per 10 amps which just isn't possible Ha Ha .

  4. #44

    making H not hho

    Hi everyone my name is bruno and I build dry cells that direct split
    water into hydrogen and oxygen totally separated
    come and visit my forum to find all about the separator cell

    http://www.hydrogenpower.be/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20#p98


  5. #45

    parts off the cells setup

    here is how the cell is put together

  6. #46

    the parts separedly

    this is a active plate

  7. #47

    the membrane

    so this is the form off the membranes

    the membranes are made off simple nylon fabric
    as fine and as dence as posssible


  8. #48

    the gaskets

    here is a pic on how the gaskets are cut
    from neopreen rubber

  9. #49

    video

    here is a video on how the cell runs

    http://www.hydrogenpower.be/viewtopi...&start=10#p211

  10. #50

    making hydrogen

    here is a video with proof that I am making only Hydrogen
    the balloon just pops and not explodes

    http://www.hydrogenpower.be/viewtopi...&start=10#p209

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