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Thread: Separate H & O? Will it make difference?

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    hi everyone

    my again ,so I still wanted to get my cell working

    without any catalist so no KOH or somthing else

    wel the law says you gonna need to overcome

    a magnetic feeld that there is holding the 2 parts off hydrogen and 1 part

    off oxygen together

    so you gonna need to apply a electrical magnetic feeld to the h2o

    caled electrolisation

    only problem is h2o out off its one does not conduct electricity

    so normaly to make it easy we apply some KOH

    and there we have it

    a cell that runs hot ,does not produce enough , after a while dont

    produce at all any more ,so all kinds off problems related to

    making the water better conduct electricity

    now when they first started to do electrolesys back in 1600

    they did not have 12 volt like we do now before tesla there was no AC

    so it was very difficoult to make a specific DC voltage

    they used High voltage beceause for them it was easy to come by

    most sources did this standard

    so they used a voltage like 2000 v DC

    now these days that has become a difficoult voltage to come by

    butt I did it anyway so here is a scematic for a 2250 volt DC

    powersurply that will give you 10 amps

    not milliamps but AMPS

    now there is one more thing when using High voltage there is mostly no

    high current so you can split the water just by a few amps and won't

    need big amps












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    question

    question

    if I am making hho and i separate them or make them separate at ones

    and there is only tap water in it

    there is gonne be chlorine in it

    on witch side the O or the H2 side is gonna come chlorine dioxide

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    My theory is that it would if at all be produced on the hydrogen side. But that I would only guess at since I would think it may be heavy enough to stay in the water aspect and become a solid waste .?
    Its done right or its not done !
    Hail HHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by www.hydrogenpower.be View Post
    hi everyone

    my again ,so I still wanted to get my cell working

    without any catalist so no KOH or somthing else

    wel the law says you gonna need to overcome

    a magnetic feeld that there is holding the 2 parts off hydrogen and 1 part

    off oxygen together

    so you gonna need to apply a electrical magnetic feeld to the h2o

    caled electrolisation

    only problem is h2o out off its one does not conduct electricity

    so normaly to make it easy we apply some KOH

    and there we have it

    a cell that runs hot ,does not produce enough , after a while dont

    produce at all any more ,so all kinds off problems related to

    making the water better conduct electricity

    now when they first started to do electrolesys back in 1600

    they did not have 12 volt like we do now before tesla there was no AC

    so it was very difficoult to make a specific DC voltage

    they used High voltage beceause for them it was easy to come by

    most sources did this standard

    so they used a voltage like 2000 v DC

    now these days that has become a difficoult voltage to come by

    butt I did it anyway so here is a scematic for a 2250 volt DC

    powersurply that will give you 10 amps

    not milliamps but AMPS

    now there is one more thing when using High voltage there is mostly no

    high current so you can split the water just by a few amps and won't

    need big amps

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    sooo from what I can understand from this post, you've created this thing that changes 12vDC to 2250vDC?????

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    correct the dielectric strength of water is high but all things have limit. Gaining enough voltage you can probably split water without an electrolyte.

    Look into tesla coils. They wireless power things all the time and produce high voltage from low voltage supplies.

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akito View Post
    correct the dielectric strength of water is high but all things have limit. Gaining enough voltage you can probably split water without an electrolyte.

    Look into tesla coils. They wireless power things all the time and produce high voltage from low voltage supplies.

    good luck

    Yes but how the hell do you retrofit one for a car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbhavsar View Post
    I am thinking about separating Hydrogen and Oxygen using an ‘H’ shape PVC Pipe housing (please click on attached drawing); the idea is to pass Oxygen only to the Air/Filter Intake and Hydrogen to Engine. I would like to ask experts, will this make any positive improvements compare to passing both together (HHO gas).
    Wouldn't want to make things too complicated rather, I would much rather prefer simplicity for sake of practical matters but, out of curiosity... has anyone ever thought of building a "Gas Centrifuge"? its complicated in design... but I'm sure its practical in function, Having some physics background myself, with all sorts of fluidynamic projects, I can see this going somewhere. aside from a hydrogen ceramic membrane to separate hydrogen with a centrifuge forcing oxygen to filter out.

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    This looks like an old post but i posed a question about how to do this here: http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread....gen-and-Oxygen
    It is an idea I have but have not tested... Is anyone still working on how to seperate the gasses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbhavsar View Post
    I am thinking about separating Hydrogen and Oxygen using an ‘H’ shape PVC Pipe housing (please click on attached drawing); the idea is to pass Oxygen only to the Air/Filter Intake and Hydrogen to Engine. I would like to ask experts, will this make any positive improvements compare to passing both together (HHO gas).
    the idea will work but not producing H & O fast because the gap is very far.
    I already did make new design for separate H & O. pls see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf8h6_JzqVk and give your comment

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