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    redDEVIL Guest

    Parallel configuration

    Hi everyone..
    I just want to share a lil experiment of mine. Recently i did an experiment using :

    (1) 3 cells working in parallel, where the cell's configuration was :
    -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+

    (2) A battery 12 Vdc and 45Ah.

    (3) Caustic soda ( NaOH ) as the aditive

    (4) At least 3 liters of electrolyte solution ( distilled water and NaOH ).

    (5) 3mm gap per plate.

    When the process began, i read 15 Amps and the voltage was steady at 12 V. Coz i was working with parallel config, it means that each cell will have 5 Amps ( 15 Amps divided by 3 cells ) and 12 Vdc each cell which means the voltage per plate was 1.7 Vdc. I got 0.1 Liter per minute.

    What happened was, the temperature was rising so hot ( untill it reached 70 Celcius or 158 F ). The Current then dropped to 12 A and continued to drop untill 10 A. Still i got o.1 LPM.

    The question is, What's wrong with my electrolyzer ? It should produce much HHO. My aim should be getting higher gas production ( untill 2 LPM ) and hopefully i can burn the gas safely without the risk of explosion.

    Anyone please help me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redDEVIL View Post
    Hi everyone..

    The question is, What's wrong with my electrolyzer ? It should produce much HHO. My aim should be getting higher gas production ( untill 2 LPM ) and hopefully i can burn the gas safely without the risk of explosion.

    Anyone please help me...
    Can you post a pic of your setup?
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    Some days I get the sinking feeling that Orwell was an optimist!

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by ShowMeHHO View Post
    Can someone please clear this up for me ....

    I read this in the forum on the thread about " Surface Area and Voltage "

    One stated " You voltage is 13.8 thus you plates are ~1.97v/p"

    Then someone posted this " in a 7 plate setup, there are 6 cell, so 13.8/6=2.3

    I had been believing the first but figuring at 13.7 volts in my design but then when I read that post I wanted to post here and get my facts straight before proceeding any farther ....
    The 6 cells and 2.3 V/Cell is correct. You have a bipolar stack. One anode, 5 BiPolar Plates and one Cathode. (The bipolar plates are an anode on one face and a cathode on the other side.) You have a 6 cell stack so 13.8/6 = 2.3V

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    voltage per cell

    number of cells divided into voltage= voltage per cell

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    so is there really any benifit to the Smackbooster wet cell design,
    +nnn-nnn+
    (actually 6 nuetral plates each side, but connected by jam-nut so they are like one plate?)

    I was thinking of making mine smaller, and having only 4 or 5 nuetral plates instead of 6 (12).

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by borgdrone View Post
    so is there really any benifit to the Smackbooster wet cell design,
    +nnn-nnn+
    (actually 6 nuetral plates each side, but connected by jam-nut so they are like one plate?)

    I was thinking of making mine smaller, and having only 4 or 5 nuetral plates instead of 6 (12).
    you'd be dropping more voltage per plate by reducing the number of plates.

    I don't think one or two plates would make that huge a difference though? Someone else would know that probably.

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    Anyone got a formula for figuring the LPM of a 24" x 12" system, with 62
    plates running at 120VDC with 15-20A??

    Plate material will be HIGH MOLYBDENUM-CHROMIUM-NICKEL for excellent non-corrosive properties.

    -Altern8Energy

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    AISI 316L is the way to go

    There are news about titanium coated plates... but for now SS is the best solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redDEVIL View Post
    Hi everyone..
    I just want to share a lil experiment of mine. Recently i did an experiment using :

    "(1) 3 cells working in parallel, where the cell's configuration was :
    -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+

    (2) A battery 12 Vdc and 45Ah.

    (3) Caustic soda ( NaOH ) as the aditive

    (4) At least 3 liters of electrolyte solution ( distilled water and NaOH ).

    (5) 3mm gap per plate.

    When the process began, i read 15 Amps and the voltage was steady at 12 V. Coz i was working with parallel config, it means that each cell will have 5 Amps ( 15 Amps divided by 3 cells ) and 12 Vdc each cell which means the voltage per plate was 1.7 Vdc. I got 0.1 Liter per minute.

    What happened was, the temperature was rising so hot ( untill it reached 70 Celcius or 158 F ). The Current then dropped to 12 A and continued to drop untill 10 A. Still i got o.1 LPM.

    The question is, What's wrong with my electrolyzer ? It should produce much HHO. My aim should be getting higher gas production ( untill 2 LPM ) and hopefully i can burn the gas safely without the risk of explosion.

    Anyone please help me...
    "(1) 3 cells working in parallel, where the cell's configuration was :
    -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+"

    Your problem is these +- cant be next to each other

    try -NNNNNN+NNNNNN-NNNNNN+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Jacques View Post
    "(1) 3 cells working in parallel, where the cell's configuration was :
    -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+ -NNNNNN+"

    Your problem is these +- cant be next to each other

    try -NNNNNN+NNNNNN-NNNNNN+

    I'm thinking he was set up as 3 single cells rather than one cell w/ the +- plates next to each other.

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