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    NFryan Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by hg2 View Post
    Why don't you guys leave behind all the problems associated with the plates innabath design that leak,overheat and often need to be rebuilt because of runway meltdowns and go with a simple true series cell design?All too often I see people suffering with openbath cells.When I first started out with hho almost 2 years ago I too went with an open bath cell.It about discouraged me altogether and almost quit because of all the problems I encountered.When I found the plans for the series cell I run now and have run for well over a year,that was the end of all problems.Yeah you'll spend more building one but spend less time building and maintaining it,and will give you years of troublefree service unlike its overheating and less efficient cousin.
    I'm not at all trying to criticize your hard work just trying to tell you there's an easier and much better way.

    Where can i find simple plans to build such a cell. I AM ALL ABOUT FED up ... With the time and money already invested with no gains and boil overs and melt downs.. I STILL dont want to give up.... Any help would be apprecitated .. What exactly is a true series cell

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFryan View Post
    Where can i find simple plans to build such a cell. I AM ALL ABOUT FED up ... With the time and money already invested with no gains and boil overs and melt downs.. I STILL dont want to give up.... Any help would be apprecitated .. What exactly is a true series cell
    If you do decide to build it use only 7 plates instead of the 8 that the plans call for,it has better production with 7.


    http://www.umpquaenergy.com/hydrogen.../tero_cell.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by hg2 View Post
    If you do decide to build it use only 7 plates instead of the 8 that the plans call for,it has better production with 7.


    http://www.umpquaenergy.com/hydrogen.../tero_cell.pdf
    Those are some very well-detailed directions. Looks very nice but where do you load the electrolytic water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigapple View Post
    Those are some very well-detailed directions. Looks very nice but where do you load the electrolytic water?
    I installed a 1/4"x3/8" nylon barb fitting on the end plate even with the bottom of the plates just above the spacer gasket.That's connected to a resevoir tank with the full mark on the tank is at the level I want the electrolyte in the cell,which just below the gas outlet fitting about 1/2".Just keep the tank topped off and gravity does the rest.

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    NFryan Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by hg2 View Post
    I installed a 1/4"x3/8" nylon barb fitting on the end plate even with the bottom of the plates just above the spacer gasket.That's connected to a resevoir tank with the full mark on the tank is at the level I want the electrolyte in the cell,which just below the gas outlet fitting about 1/2".Just keep the tank topped off and gravity does the rest.
    What is the output of this cell at approx 5- 10 amps with a tsp or so of NaOh per gallon of water.? Enough gas makes its way out with that small of a hole only running through the center of the plates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFryan View Post
    What is the output of this cell at approx 5- 10 amps with a tsp or so of NaOh per gallon of water.? Enough gas makes its way out with that small of a hole only running through the center of the plates?
    The specs on the tero cell are almost 2 lpm drawing 22 amps if you build it to plan specs.The electrolyte Is a strong concentration of potassium hydroxide(koh) 28% by weight which works out to about 1 lb of koh to 1/2 gal of distilled water,I wouldn't run sodium hydroxide(NaOH) because it tends to gum up this type cell. I know thats sounds high that's what the design calls for.I've been running a little more than that in my cell(built mine twice the size called for in the plans) for over a year and production is great.Even with a high concentration of koh this cell will barely get warm to the touch,one of the benifits of a true series cell design.
    Regarding the outlet holes I drilled mine 1/2" and it works fine.The equalization holes I drilled 1/8"

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    NFryan Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by hg2 View Post
    The specs on the tero cell are almost 2 lpm drawing 22 amps if you build it to plan specs.The electrolyte Is a strong concentration of potassium hydroxide(koh) 28% by weight which works out to about 1 lb of koh to 1/2 gal of distilled water,I wouldn't run sodium hydroxide(NaOH) because it tends to gum up this type cell. I know thats sounds high that's what the design calls for.I've been running a little more than that in my cell(built mine twice the size called for in the plans) for over a year and production is great.Even with a high concentration of koh this cell will barely get warm to the touch,one of the benifits of a true series cell design.
    Regarding the outlet holes I drilled mine 1/2" and it works fine.The equalization holes I drilled 1/8"

    Do you have any pics of the cell you built or your setup. Id be interested to see. And 1LB! of KoH to a 1/2 gallon of distilled>>?

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    Nfryan Did you read over the tero plans I posted? Under electrolyser tips #8 is the koh to distilled water ratio,and yes that's correct.
    Sorry I don't have any pics to post at the present time to post,but I built my cell twice the size than the plans I posted.If you want more lpm per the amps if you decide to build one,I would build 2 stock ones and run them in series because it would be more efficient than a larger one.At the time I built mine I was still pretty green on hho cell designs,and wish I knew then what I know now.If I decide to build another I'll build 2 stock ones and run them in series.

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