10+ lpm cell (with pictures)

[hitf]

Our cell is designed, tested, and proven and we selling them all around the country.

Measurements:

20" x 13" x 9"

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...gramtopjpg.jpg

Holds 6.5 gallons of water.

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The cells are made from 430 stainless steel



The studs, washers and nuts are 316.

THE CELL WILL NOT BE MADE FROM ABS (like in the picture) THEY WILL BE MADE FROM ALIUMIUM WITH LEXAN LINED WALLS.

Contact:

[sho14u]

Well thats great that you made something you can sell, but what are the paramiters? What is the current draw? Cold and warm? What kind of heat does it produce after running for about an hour?

[Stevo]

Our cell is designed, tested, and proven and we selling them all around the country.

Measurements:

20" x 13" x 9"

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...gramtopjpg.jpg

Holds 6.5 gallons of water.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...emidiagram.jpg

The cells are made from 430 stainless steel



The studs, washers and nuts are 316.

THE CELL WILL NOT BE MADE FROM ABS (like in the picture) THEY WILL BE MADE FROM ALIUMIUM WITH LEXAN LINED WALLS.

Contact:

sales@hydrogenisthefuture.com

Nice job. Lots o rust in that water I see though. What is the individual cell voltage? What is the overall input voltage? Why 430 stainless?

What electrolyte?
Have you seen what happens to Lexan when exposed to electrolysis and KOH or NaOH?

I might suggest UHMW polyethylene instead of Lexan.

Overall, good work.

[resago]

what changes did you make?
did you change your 2n config or series the cells?
how does 430 compare to 316L?
whats with the brown water?

[hitf]

The cells draws about 35-40 amps when cold and around 50-60 when heated up.

The heat of the cell will not go higher than 145 with the right amount of sodium hydroxide.

The brown stuff n the water is from a small amount of tap water that was is the cell from the first test that we did with tap water.

the cell config is the same as before -nn+nn-

I didnt change anything, just added less Sodium Hydroxide. It has 1 ml per gallon. The first test had about 1.65 ml. per gallon. We lowered that to 1 ml and it works great.

Has ran for over 18 hours with the temp not reaching over 145.

I have been build cells of all kinds for 10 months or so and have found that 430 stainless works better than 304, 316l, or anything that I have tried. Plus it is cheaper and looks better after being ran for months.

[Stevo]

The cells draws about 35-40 amps when cold and around 50-60 when heated up.

The heat of the cell will not go higher than 145 with the right amount of sodium hydroxide.

The brown stuff n the water is from a small amount of tap water that was is the cell from the first test that we did with tap water.

the cell config is the same as before -nn+nn-

I didnt change anything, just added less Sodium Hydroxide. It has 1 ml per gallon. The first test had about 1.65 ml. per gallon. We lowered that to 1 ml and it works great.

Has ran for over 18 hours with the temp not reaching over 145.

I have been build cells of all kinds for 10 months or some and have found that 430 stainless works better than 304, 316l, or anything that I have tried. Plus it is cheaper and looks better after being ran for months.

Very cool, so have you seen any pitting in your plates after a few months with 430 stainless? I am guessing your individual cell voltage is ~4v. Do you have any pics of the 430 stainless after a few months useage?

[hitf]

I have seen a little pitting on the plates after use but the 430 pits are nothing like the 316l pits.

[hitf]

Nice job. Lots o rust in that water I see though. What is the individual cell voltage? What is the overall input voltage? Why 430 stainless?

What electrolyte?
Have you seen what happens to Lexan when exposed to electrolysis and KOH or NaOH?

I might suggest UHMW polyethylene instead of Lexan.

Overall, good work.

Isn't Lexan just a name brand for polyethylene?

[Stevo]

Isn't Lexan just a name brand for polyethylene?

Lexan is another name for polycarbonate.

Polyethylene is a completely different plastic and much more chemical resistant to KOH and NaOH than polycarbonate is. In fact, polyethylene is the plastic used to store these chemicals. It's labeled as HDPE, which is High Density Polyethylene. The UHMW polyethylene has the added benefit over HDPE as virtually unbreakable and high abrasion resistance while being about 10x easier to work with than polycarbonate.

[borescopeit]

Lexan is another name for polycarbonate.

Polyethylene is a completely different plastic and much more chemical resistant to KOH and NaOH than polycarbonate is. In fact, polyethylene is the plastic used to store these chemicals. It's labeled as HDPE, which is High Density Polyethylene. The UHMW polyethylene has the added benefit over HDPE as virtually unbreakable and high abrasion resistance while being about 10x easier to work with than polycarbonate.

I tried polycarbonate before. Not only it chips when you drill in it, does crack, breaks under high psi applied to it by tightening bolts around dry cells, and it dissolves at lowest 10% concentration! That is not it. It is most expensive plastic material you could use in your cell and it is complete waste of money! A sheet of 1" x 4' x 8' costs over $600!

Now I use polypropylene, it is low in price ($320 for the same size sheet), does not experience all the problems I listed above, highly durable under any KOH concentration, has high melting point ...

I have pleasure working with this type of plastic aka best stuff you can get for the money you have, and it is fitting HHO Dry Cell application the best over any competitors!

10 lpm + ..........................................
The cells draws about 35-40 amps when cold and around 50-60 when heated up.

IT IS PURE BULLSH1T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No cell ever will produce that much lpm with these amps, especially this type of semi-wet student project!
Even the best cell, in ideal environment, with most polished design, etc. will barely do half of the lpm per the amps stated!