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    Neutral plates

    I used from now:
    -NN+NN+NN-
    I see that we are all using SS plate as neutral.
    But what is the sense of it?
    Did you ever try to use other material as Neutral?
    Plexiglas, PVC plate?
    Because in fact it's just to separate the + and - .

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    also the neatruals do have power,

    if u have 6 plates u divide the voltage between all the plates
    = 12v = 2v each plate
    = +nnnn- x 2v = 12v

    and some plates will have more power and others will have less but in 0.1 or 0.2V a plate.

    if u use plastic or plexi, they seperate the voltage not pass the volts through.

    that should make it clear as mud.
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    Thanks for the replies.
    Until now I was doing:
    - space(3mm) N space N space + space (or twice +) N space N space -
    The Neutral wasn't plug to anything - to negative, + to positive.
    So neutral is not "using any volt, it's just a conductor such as water with KOH.
    It's there not to have straight contact between +and-.
    So if I use a piece of Plexiglas (with some holes of course) it should be the same result.
    I tried before:
    2 plexi bottles, one with anode the second one with cathode.
    And 2 hoses up and down for the water flowing.
    It was producing HHo and O, the start was slower but the amount after water flow was correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephane View Post
    I used from now:
    -NN+NN+NN-
    I see that we are all using SS plate as neutral.
    But what is the sense of it?
    Did you ever try to use other material as Neutral?
    Plexiglas, PVC plate?
    Because in fact it's just to separate the + and - .
    In the electrolyte, the Unconnected plates are NOT neutral!

    BoyntonStu

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    Sir BoyntonStu, thanks for the reply.
    If they are not neutral so what are they? +, -? How the electricity goes thought?

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    Electrolite makes them a conductor

    The neutral plates in a unit conduct eletricity...so being not powered (marked as N) it has no power received from the power source it still gets voltage (power) through the electrolite or other impurities that you give it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stephane View Post
    Sir BoyntonStu, thanks for the reply.
    If they are not neutral so what are they? +, -? How the electricity goes thought?
    Electricity flows though wires.

    At every point along the wire as you go from + to - the voltage is slightly less + than it was at the previous point. Less positive is the same as being negative with respect to the previous point.

    Electricity flows through an electrolyte. In fact, we see 50 Amps or more easily flowing through the liquid.

    At every point along the electrolyte as you go from + to - the voltage is slightly less + than it was at the previous point. Less positive is the same as being negative with respect to the previous point.


    I hope that this helps.


    BoyntonStu

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    Ok, it's more clear, thank you.
    One more question, if you don't mind:
    How can you calculate the volt/amp if the N plates are slightly less "charged"?
    Is it going in crescendo, I mean for example the first one is +2,5V (as an example), the second +2,3 the third +2,1 and so on?
    Regarding this, N plates are also producing gas, isn't it?

    thanks for yr answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephane View Post
    Ok, it's more clear, thank you.
    One more question, if you don't mind:
    How can you calculate the volt/amp if the N plates are slightly less "charged"?
    Is it going in crescendo, I mean for example the first one is +2,5V (as an example), the second +2,3 the third +2,1 and so on?
    Regarding this, N plates are also producing gas, isn't it?

    thanks for yr answers.

    First, I suggest calling them U plates.

    You have a 2 plate cell and 12 volts between them.

    You add a third plate, a U plate in between them.

    If you measure the U plate from the - it will measure +6 Volts.


    If you measure the U plate from the + it will measure -6 Volts.


    Add more U plates and the voltages will go down in proportion to the number of plates.

    For example; using 7 plates you get 6 cells.

    Immersed in the electrolyte, there will be 2 Volts between 2 adjacent cell plates.

    I have been atempting to change the nomenclature to avoid this confusion without success.


    Calling a plate N wastes too much time.


    BoyntonStu

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    Now it's clear, I understand.
    About U plate, you are right!
    Thank you.
    Steph.

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