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    Zzyzx Guest

    new cell questions

    We justassembled a dry call design. it is 6 cells with 5 neutrals.
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    The plates are 51/2 by 5 1/2 inches. The gap is .100. We used 6 inch
    square profile "O" rings for gaskets.
    Using steight distilled water.
    Jumpered from my Truck ideling at 14 1/5 volts and showing 10 amps current.
    No production of bubbles. Got any ideas???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzyzx View Post
    We justassembled a dry call design. it is 6 cells with 5 neutrals.
    +nnnnn_nnnnn+nnnnn_nnnnn+nnnnn_nnnnn+
    The plates are 51/2 by 5 1/2 inches. The gap is .100. We used 6 inch
    square profile "O" rings for gaskets.
    Using steight distilled water.
    Jumpered from my Truck ideling at 14 1/5 volts and showing 10 amps current.
    No production of bubbles. Got any ideas???
    Distilled water does not conduct electricity. You need to mix in some form of electrolyte. The most recommended is Potassium Hydroxide or Sodium Hydroxide. Both of these give great results.
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    Q_hack, thank you very much for the response. I add added about 2 tblespoons of baking soda. No response. Then we moved to 6 cells of 2 neutrals and the production just took off.

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    You should dry the cell out and check for shorts with an ohm meter. You should have gotten zero to very little amp draw without electrolite. Better to find a short now than to waste 10 amps later and be dissapointed with production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzyzx View Post
    Q_hack, thank you very much for the response. I add added about 2 tblespoons of baking soda. No response. Then we moved to 6 cells of 2 neutrals and the production just took off.
    and definitely stay away from baking soda. it'll muck up your generator.
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    The baking soda has started to leave the brown sludge after 20 min.

    The spacing on the plates?

    what would be ideal?

    will post pics. when we get that figured out.

    Thanks in advance.

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    plate spacing can vary widely depending on the build..

    Some use 1/16" other's use 1/8"..

    my design calls for .040" spacing...when compressed I'm not sure how small the gap will be.

    what's optimum will depend on your specific build.

    There are several people using the O ring material as plate spacers with good results.

    I hope this helps.
    mike
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    Zzyzx Guest
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    I hope this works.

    zzyzx

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    Zzyzx Guest
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    A couple more pics so you can see the O Ring usage. This is our first
    endever and cannot wait to try.
    Am now seaking KOH to replace the soda that we removed. Disassembled
    and cleaned the brown muck and changed the lone up to
    +nnnnn-nnnnn+nnnnn-nnnnn+nnnnn_nnnnn+. Someone had reported beter production with the plusses on thew outside. Had to add one plate but have spares.

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    Sorry I forgot to add that the O Rings are 1/8th inch but I have tightened down to about .080 inches.

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