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    New Double cell in series

    This is a cell I am building for a friend's Chevy 2500 HD. Its two 7 plate configured as +nn-nn+ connected in series.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    Dual cell

    This cell ROCKS!!!!!!!! I am 20 feet away from it and I can see the HHO coming off of it. Its been running for about 30 minutes and the water isnt even warm!!!!
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    Very nice! Dimensions?

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    The dimensions are 11"L x7 3/4"w x 8"h, Its is now at 102°F pulling 8 amps after about 45 minutes.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    tbhavsar Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Stratous View Post
    This cell ROCKS!!!!!!!! I am 20 feet away from it and I can see the HHO coming off of it. Its been running for about 30 minutes and the water isnt even warm!!!!
    Sound Great!!!

    Since amp is low in Series; one could add more NaOH to improve conductivities; Question: How much NaOH or KOH you used; approx. is fine per gallon of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbhavsar View Post
    Sound Great!!!

    Since amp is low in Series; one could add more NaOH to improve conductivities; Question: How much NaOH or KOH you used; approx. is fine per gallon of water.
    In that cell I believe it was about 3 to 4 tsp per gallon.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratous View Post
    In that cell I believe it was about 3 to 4 tsp per gallon.
    Thanks; Stratous. I have connected three cells in series; '+n-n+' config, with 1/8 spacing. Following are my reading on voltage and amp. I have yet to measure gas output.. hopefully in couple of days.

    Cell #1: 4.03 v, voltage on neutral plate ~2v
    Cell #2: 3.78 v; voltage on neutral plate ~2.10v
    Cell #3: 4.40 v; voltage on neutral plate ~ 2.15v

    Total amp < 3.5; kept running for 1 hr.

    Question: How come 12.xx voltage from car battery is not equally divided; may it is based on slight difference between gap for each plate, surface across three cells.

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    rzone Guest
    You got me confused here
    How do you measure those voltages?
    2 adjacent plates not connected together form a cell. +n-n+ would be 4 cells. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbhavsar View Post
    Thanks; Stratous. I have connected three cells in series; '+n-n+' config, with 1/8 spacing. Following are my reading on voltage and amp. I have yet to measure gas output.. hopefully in couple of days.

    Cell #1: 4.03 v, voltage on neutral plate ~2v
    Cell #2: 3.78 v; voltage on neutral plate ~2.10v
    Cell #3: 4.40 v; voltage on neutral plate ~ 2.15v

    Total amp < 3.5; kept running for 1 hr.

    Question: How come 12.xx voltage from car battery is not equally divided; may it is based on slight difference between gap for each plate, surface across three cells.

    Three Cells in Series – Observation & Improvements Needed

    I am experimenting with three cell in series with ‘+n-n+’ plate configuration; I am not getting expected output of 1 LPM. Following are my observations so far….

    1) With Series, amp & temp is low that is good thing but it also reduced output!

    Questions:
    1) What is effect of ‘N’ (Neutral plates) on current (I know it drops Voltage)
    2) Since same electrolyte solution works good in Parellel connection, why series connection is dropping gas output? It seems that gas production needs high current so I had to add more NaOH;

    3) What is a good amount of catalyst / gallon in Series Connection?

    Next Steps:
    1) Currently I have added SIX tea spoon of NaOH (powder form); amp is ~3.5 but bubbles are slow; so I am wondering if I can add more….
    2) Sealing plate edges to stop unwanted current flow…
    3) ? (waiting for your feedback)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbhavsar View Post
    Thanks; Stratous. I have connected three cells in series; '+n-n+' config, with 1/8 spacing. Following are my reading on voltage and amp. I have yet to measure gas output.. hopefully in couple of days.

    Cell #1: 4.03 v, voltage on neutral plate ~2v
    Cell #2: 3.78 v; voltage on neutral plate ~2.10v
    Cell #3: 4.40 v; voltage on neutral plate ~ 2.15v

    Total amp < 3.5; kept running for 1 hr.

    Question: How come 12.xx voltage from car battery is not equally divided; may it is based on slight difference between gap for each plate, surface across three cells.
    Its because the cells have resistance, so as it builds in a series circuit, then the voltage will decrease.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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