Sudden loss of compression! only 20miles of hho

[Michaeljp86]

I am not a mechanic but is the electrolyte in your boosters low? Did the electrolyte siphon into the motor? I don't know if this would cause the problems your experiencing or not. Just thinking out loud. Best of luck.

Alot of water would lock up the engine but if it was getting a little water it would vaporize when the gas burns raising compression and could blow a head gasket, maybe crack a head.

[deadcorolla]

The Cells are fresh and I didn't run them very long on the car. I'm using the Water4Gas design, it has a line with a ribbed anchor inserted at one end and the other to the bubbler valve so I would think that would have kept out water although I was not using a separate bubbler. I looked at the vinyl line to see if there was any moister and didn't really see much. Yeah, I would have thought that some strange pressure or heat created and blew the head gasket, but the wet compression test determined that cylinders 1,2,and 3 had 0 and #4 had 105.

Yes the engine sounds like its freewheeling (constant) when I start it. A classic sound of no compression.

here is a picture of the spark plug on cylinder #1

I will keep everybody informed and take lots of pictures when I remove the cylinder head.

Thanks for any input

[jericoriver]

I would check first for a broken timing belt or chain. Pull the dist. cap and spin the motor over, see if the rotor is turning.

[daddymikey1975]

I wonder what the white 'corrosive' looking stuff is on the outer electrode of that plug in the second picture ??
the plug doesn't look like it got too hot, but that white stuff could be tell-tale..

his hands don't look nearly dirty enough to be an engine swapping man HAHA... I can't get my hands that clean after working on my cars.. at least not for a week HAHA..

I would check first for a broken timing belt or chain. Pull the dist. cap and spin the motor over, see if the rotor is turning.

broken timing components would not contribute to no compression.

the only things that contribute to compression are the piston rings, the valves staying closed and the head gasket (and head) being tight.

even if the timing belt had broken, it's VERY unlikely that he'd see no compression at all on 3 adjacent cylinders. more likely would be 1 and 3 or 2 and 4.

my money's on holes in the top of the pistons or a head gasket.

either way it still sucks.

hope you get it figured out.

mike

[Michaeljp86]

Was the water level low in your cell after this happened? The 2nd pic doesnt look good. if I was you I would pull the head off, should be easy on that engine.

I would drain the oil too, my oil looked fine after I did the head gaskets. I know antifreeze was in there but it looked fine. I drained almost 1 gal of antifreeze out of it. I has synthetic oil in it, maybe synthetic doesnt mix with antifreeze like normal oil.

[coffeeachiever]

Alot of water would lock up the engine but if it was getting a little water it would vaporize when the gas burns raising compression and could blow a head gasket, maybe crack a head.

I think what Overtaker is getting at is what the electrolyte will do to the metal components of an engine. Especially aluminum. What I got from his question was that he is concerned that the aluminum was damaged from the electrolyte being sucked into the intake.

[Roland Jacques]

I would check first for a broken timing belt or chain. Pull the dist. cap and spin the motor over, see if the rotor is turning.

Good sugestion, and quick easy test also. but with no noise
please keep us posted

[deadcorolla]

ha ha Orange GoJo dude! It does wonders to my hands!

thanks to all. Now time to find the wonders that lie in my combustion chamber

and YES whatever happened it does SUCK.
now I'm suck driving my project car (85 RX-7) I wonder how well rotary's do on HHO? I am a little scared of hooking up my cells to it. I guess I would definitely use a separate bubbler this time.


Oh, and here are my cells that I have freshly build. Now that I've done this research and read some threads I can see why dry cells are the future. Does anybody have a link to a thread discussing how a dry cell works? Does it pass the water with electrolyte through it?

[cully]

umm arnt those 1 way valves the wrong way round ?
here

shouldnt they let air into the cell to stop the cell sucking the bubbler water back.

the arrows shows it passing HHO out from the cell

or do my eyes lie

[hydrotinkerer]

Why would you have 2 different sets of valves? Do you have it hooked to manifold vacuum?