Anybody else having exponential heat problems?

[F150]

2002 F150 4.6 5speed 4x4. Was getting 14mpg. Now Im running cool and consistant at 19mpg.
Thank you all for your wisdom and advice.
Neutrals helped.
My container holds half a liter of water, my plates are .125x1x5 spaced 1/16.
My config. is +NNNN-. thats 2.8V per bay.
Im drawing 4.6amps with potassium/sodium hydroxide


10amps gives me 22mpg but I need more water capacity to handle the heat.

[otrcomm]

I had heating problems also! My system went to boiling point quickly. Then setup a system similar to hydropower KY, except I use a heater core from a junk motorhome and now system stays below 100 F. I have the outfeed of recirculation system above the electrodes about two inches and infeed at bottom. This keeps a constant level in system and circulation helps strip bubbles off ss tubes. I also have a radiator overflow container plumbed into system that is calibrated to "show" the electrolyte level in the hho generators. I add electrolyte through the radiator overflow container instead of going into the hho generators. I have the heater core mounted in front of my radiator like a transmission cooler so electrolyte stays cool. I realize that you get more hydrogen production from a hotter system, but I didn't want to get into building a temperature sensor configuration to control my shurflo pump.

[COMP]

I had heating problems also! My system went to boiling point quickly. Then setup a system similar to hydropower KY, except I use a heater core from a junk motorhome and now system stays below 100 F. I have the outfeed of recirculation system above the electrodes about two inches and infeed at bottom. This keeps a constant level in system and circulation helps strip bubbles off ss tubes. I also have a radiator overflow container plumbed into system that is calibrated to "show" the electrolyte level in the hho generators. I add electrolyte through the radiator overflow container instead of going into the hho generators. I have the heater core mounted in front of my radiator like a transmission cooler so electrolyte stays cool. I realize that you get more hydrogen production from a hotter system, but I didn't want to get into building a temperature sensor configuration to control my shurflo pump.

can you post pics of your system ?

[otrcomm]

can you post pics of your system ?

Yeah, if I can figure out how to make the images small enough so this forum will accept them. Any ideas?

I could email them to you if you would give me an address.

[COMP]

Yeah, if I can figure out how to make the images small enough so this forum will accept them. Any ideas?

I could email them to you if you would give me an address.

can you send them to photobucket and add a link so all can see ??

[otrcomm]

can you send them to photobucket and add a link so all can see ??

I will setup a space online and publish some pictures. Give me some time today though, cause I got other things to do.

[COMP]

I will setup a space online and publish some pictures. Give me some time today though, cause I got other things to do.

great ,,i;m still in the learning phase

[F150]

when ever I email a pic my computer asks if I want to send as a smaller or original size. So I end up emailing pics to my self and posting the recieved smaller files. One way of doing it I guess.

[Painless]

Yeah, if I can figure out how to make the images small enough so this forum will accept them. Any ideas?

I could email them to you if you would give me an address.

Grab yourself a copy of 'The Gimp' from:

http://www.gimp.org/ (it's free open source software)

Load your images and use the 'Image' menu option 'Scale Image'. You can also save them as jpeg's to help lower space usage.

[otrcomm]

Grab yourself a copy of 'The Gimp' from:

http://www.gimp.org/ (it's free open source software)

Load your images and use the 'Image' menu option 'Scale Image'. You can also save them as jpeg's to help lower space usage.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Gimp. But in the mean time, here are some photos that should be self explanatory Except the first three were before I installed the radiator overflow container and a couple of the last three show it installed. You can see a 30 amp solenoid in one of the pictures that I use to drive the generators straight off the alternator/battery.

http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P3290721.jpg
http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P3290722.jpg
http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P3290723.jpg

http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P4180729.jpg
http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P4180730.jpg
http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P4180731.jpg

The input to the radiator overflow container is through the port on the right. This is opposite from what the cap on the container specs, but the left port has a tube to the bottom of the container, and I wanted the pump to pull from the bottom.

You can not really tell from the picture at http://www.isp-systems.net/hhogen/ph...1-P3290722.jpg, but, the recirculation output ports on the generators are on the backside at about the level of the electrode contact bolts on either side of each generator. The tops of the electrode bundles proper are about two inches below this level. I am using 3/8" vinyl tubing and nylon fittings in the recirculation system except for where it connects to the heater core and there I use brass for no particular reason except I had the brass fittings available.

The system has been running about four weeks, and there is slight discoloration of the electrolyte from oxidation of my 304 ss electrodes. Nothing major though.

With this system, on a carburated 1988 Suzuki Samurai, I have realized a 53.3% increase in mpg. This is a very tired Sami with bad compression, and before I was getting 18 mpg, and now, so far, I am getting 27.6 mpg in the city. Before I started prototyping, I pulled the stock carburetor off and am using a Weber. This is my third prototype. I will put the stock carburetor back on later to see if I can fine tune it.