am not insinuating unfair treatment of anyone.
I am well aware of the situation between ebn and sid and in fact the single stock share that he recieved he took as an insult from ebn.(sid's words not mine)
when you guys were developing your dry cell with EBN sid was using my cell design as the origin i argued over changing my design with him long before ebn existed. he joined up with or helped found ebn if i remember right (not sure) but then came back to me as his supplier and eventually used my design after whatever the fallout was with the EBN member. I was sid's supplier and dropped shipped for all his customers. he and the ebn supplier ran out of scrap steel and could not maintain the cheap plates in the beginning.
we should have a phone conversation scarecrow.
You just might be suprised
before there was an "EBN Dry Cell", before there was a "Sid Cell" there was a proof of concept prototype assembled by me ... yes it was indeed assembled from scrap steel for as little in development costs as possible, because I was paying out my own pocket for the materials and fabrication ... I published a YouTube video in June of 2008 as a "teaser" that even named Sid as a design team member in the credits ... at the time, he was still with EBN ... as far as I know, this was the first example of this particular design constructed and it became the proof of concept for both EBN's and Sid's products ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjGBtUqQcAY
upon formation of the corporation, everyone who participated in the original design effort was rewarded with one share of EBN stock, myself included ... to the best of my knowledge, less than 50 shares of EBN stock have been issued so I am not sure why anyone would consider this to be an insult ... I felt honored to be recognized for my contribution ...
many of the players within EBN, myself included, had fabricated devices based on Tero Ranta's publised pattern as early as 2006 ... so none of us had the large brass ones to claim the device as "our invention" ... it was simply our interpretation of a well known, reliable design ...
our efforts were focused on safe operation and ease of mass production ... our intent was to influence other experimenters in the field and get them to move away from what we considered to be the rather hazardous designs that were common just 12 months ago ... in all things we had set out to do, we have succeeded so far ... and to date, we have not had to lie to or cheat anyone to do it ... but then our expectations were modest ...
I hope this helps to set the record straight to your satisfaction and that you will not persist in spreading what amounts to hearsay gossip about things you really do not know ...
you and I agree that reliable products that perform as advertised are critical to advancing this fledgling industry into the mainstream ... however, it is my opinion that our industry is at a fragile transitional state and that products that do not live up to consumer expectation could hurt the industry as a whole ...
I can be reached by email at
SmartScarecrow@gmail.com ... I keep a pretty brutal schedule but am available by phone ... EBN's phone number is 703-842-3005 ... I am on ext 5100 ... but it typically ends up in voice mail as I am rarely sitting at desk waiting for a phone call ... but I do return calls at least once a day, more often when I can ...
Originally Posted by Shane Jackson
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