Inductors to create electromagnetic fields instead of Electrodes w/ Electrolyte (R&D)

[alpha-dog]

I've followed this thread for some time
http://oupower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2327

[tadpole]

I was discussing wether or not you could break apart the hyrdogen / oxygen using electro magnetic fields and he said it is posibble, he is a electrical engineer that works for TECO.

Tad

[ElectricSquid]

I did a test some time ago, but haven't had the time to post the results. until now.

Anyway, I did a magnetic field test on a working Smacks Booster electrode array using a simple compass. What I found is that there was no detectable magnetic field at all.

Then, I tried to create even the slightest amount of HHO by using two large rare earth magnets at .072 inches apart submerged in a bath of distilled water...

The result was NO HHO.

Then, I added electrolyte (KOH), just for ****s and giggles :P ...

The result was NO HHO.






(maybe in a large scale generator, It might work. Maybe a generator the size of a particle accelerator, but that would not produce enough power to drive it down the road.)



So I conclude that for conventional means, the electromagnetic field HHO generator theory was a total failure and has been proven, at least in my small scale tests, to not work AT ALL.

Zero, zilch, nothing, no HHO.

[truckman1966]

good thoughts though. always worth a try!

[Philldpapill]

ElectricSquid,
Something needs to be understood. This is basic field electromagnetics, but not exactly common knowledge...

There is NO "Electromagnetic Field" involved in electrolysis - except maybe the photons hitting your eyes, allowing you to see right now... There IS, however, a magnetic field that is produced from the current flowing through your wires, and also an electric field produced within the wire, and between the plates. These two fields, in this case at least, are totally unrelated.

The term "electromagnetic field" applies only to a self propogating wave, such as light, Xrays, radio waves, etc. You can never have any sort of stationary EM field.

Now, with that said, a tid bit about electrochemistry for a second. The phenomena that causes the H2 and O2 to form, is not because of moving charges within the water, but because the charges jump off the H and O ions in the water, and jump onto the metal plates. Your theory DOES indeed have some merit, but it involves frequencies in the GHz range. I think the resonant frequency of an H20 molecule is something like 22GHz.

If you were to apply an oscillating magnetic field at 22GHz, yes, you could cause the molecules to fly apart, and form H2 and O2(with different res. freqs.) This method COULD indeed produce H2 and O2, but it requires EXTREMELY sophisticated equipment. Your microwave oven operates on something like 4.5GHz, or around that.

Anyway, long story short... A Stationary magnetic field doesn't really do anything, except attract magnetic materials, and alter the direction of charged particles. A CHANGING magnetic field, however, causes charged particles to feel a force, or move. Basically, a stationary M field causes MOVING charged particles to feel a force, and a changing M field causes STATIONARY charged particles to feel a force(or any charged particle really).