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Thread: Obama Kills Hydrogen Car Funding

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHO BLASTER View Post
    "Grow it baby, grow it" make new jobs for Americans, screw the Arabs with their oil, they can stick it up their asses
    Grow what?? I hope you're not one of those Ethanol from Corn fanatics..

    Hemp would be a great source of Ethanol and even oil.

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    Why electric-hho cars instead of hho-combustion cars?

    Why does governments and the midia seems to prefer the option of using HHO cells to generate electricity in electric cars, instead of burning the HHO in the combustion motors?

    Looks like they tend to give up on HHO cars because the electricity produced by cells seem insuficient, while burning the HHO seems so powerful...

    Maybe there is some interest in selling fuel cells, to convert to electricity, instead of allowing a citizen to fuel with water and produce its own HHO in his own dry cells on-demand...

    Once our cells manage to produce the necessary LPM to fuel at least 50% of our internal combustion engine needs, we will be happy, while those driving a car with lots of batteries and eletricity generating hydrogen cells will always be disapointed with the electric-HHO car performance...

    Every politician that rides a fuel cell electric car seems to be disapointed... why not give the HHO combustion a chance?

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    Although it is disappointing it should have been expected. The reasoning that the money was stripped because the president and Steven Chu, his energy secretary, said hydrogen fueled cars are still decades away and that they'd rather concentrate on more immediate energy-saving solutions is disconcerting yet sound.
    Their big argument is untold billions would be needed to build an infrastructure of hydrogen pipelines and fueling stations. Other problems include hydrogen storage and the production of hydrogen.

    This is my reasoning, In his State of the Union address in 2003, President Bush announced a $1.2 billion Freedom Fuel initiative to reverse America?s growing dependence on foreign oil by developing the technology for commercially viable hydrogen-powered fuel cells to power cars, trucks, homes and businesses with no pollution or greenhouse gases. The Freedom Fuel initiative will include $720 million in new funding over the next five years to develop the technologies and infrastructure to produce, store, and distribute hydrogen for use in fuel cell vehicles and electricity generation.
    Now that was 7 years ago, and we really are no closer to having a storage & delivery system than we were then.
    So the big question is not why did Obama kill the Hydrogen Car funding to save $100 million a year but where did the last 7 years (or $700 million) of funding go? Certainly not to pull us away from foreign oil dependency!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by government
    "billions would be needed to build an infrastructure of hydrogen pipelines and fueling stations... storage and the production..."
    You're absolutelly right, but those statements show how they never consider the possibility of on-demand production as we are currently trying; meaning that they are absolutelly wrong, or we are.

    I guess they are always interested in selling the hydrogen or the hho-fueled electric cells.

    Everytime I burn a hydrogen flame I keep thinking we are in the right track. HHO on demand - no pipelines, no fueling stations, no storage, only on-demand production... or is it so unreachable and we didn't notice it yet?
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    Guys, You have to look at the big picture of energy. All the different ways we and others come up with to find and use alternative energy is great but not ready for prime time players yet. Our country's oil supply isn't being tapped into for a very good reason, in the grand skeam of things. Our natural gas supply will last us for at least 100 years and that's with the estimated use increase over those 100 years and were finding more every day. The same goes for our oil. We have more reserves than all of Saudi Arabia, all being saved for when we need it. When they run out.
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