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    HydroProp Project

    I've decided to start a project thread for the HHO management unit I am currently working on. I plan to keep a feature list in post #2 which may or may not undergo changes during development.

    For those of you that haven't seen my previous posts, I am developing a micro controller based device that will handle PWM and automated vehicle sensor management. Please see post #2 for a full description of the proposed features.

    As a basis for the device, I am using the excellent Parallax Propeller Micro controller chip. The Propeller runs at 80mhz and incorporates 8 parallel execution processors (known as cogs) to deliver 120 mips of 32 bit CPU power.

    The main aim of the project is to provide a device that does not simply replace the need for a separate PWM, MAP/MAF & EFIE enhancers, but ties all these devices together along with feature improvement and a very affordable package.

    Please feel free to post on this thread with any related comments or suggestions, your input will help to shape an end product that will be of benefit to all.

    Russ.
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    Feature List

    Pulse Width Modulator

    The PWM feature will utilize input from the fuel injectors in order to control PWM duty cycle and frequency. This will provide the ability for HHO cell output to match engine fuel requirements.

    User tunable options:

    - Fuel to duty cycle multiplication factor

    MAP/MAF Enhancer

    A load sensing Dynamic MAP/MAF enhancer. This will adjust the level of enhancement with respect to the load that the engine is currently under.

    User tunable options:

    - Enhancement base percentage
    - Enhancement to load curve intensity

    Oxygen Sensor Enhancer

    Provision for automatic control of up to four (two pre cat and two post cat) narrowband oxygen sensors.

    User tunable options:

    - Additional voltage offset (in addition to automatic tuning)

    Later in the project, wideband sensors may be addressed also.

    Safety

    Exhaust gas temperature monitoring will be incorporated either by an included probe or connection to an external EGT gauges alarm.

    User Interface

    Output will be provided via a 4x20 LCD with backlight support.

    Input will be via a four way directional keypad with an additional 'select' button (5 keys total).

    Maintenance

    A method will be provided for easy download of new firmware to the device, as updates become available.
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    Progress so far...

    So far, I have completed building the basic development board for the HydroProp. This board incorporates the LCD screen and 5 button keypad along with other hardware to aid in development and debugging.

    Work on the user interface (LCD and button) control code and basic menus is about 30% complete. I'm also currently going through a selection process for the external components I will need to add to the system, such as A/D converters. I've already purchased extra chips to allow a testing platform for installation in my truck.

    I plan to re-install my HHO cell into my truck this weekend after I've finished upgrading the plumbing to 3/8".
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    Does your EGT have an external output that you can feed to a computer? While mine is a digital model, it is just a basic sensor and meter.
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    Yes, it has a 12v line to an optional warning bulb. When I get to that point in the project, I want to look at the thermocouples that are out there and see what's involved in interfacing them. Probably just an A/D converter.
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    I made use of an old oversized project box this weekend and built a development unit to use in my truck while I'm developing the system. Its large enough for two breadboards, one for the micro-controller and its eeprom and crystal, another for the interface IC's as I incorporate them.

    I ordered some samples today of digital potentiometers, some 8 channel 12 bit analog to digital converters and quad 12 bit digital to analog converters. As soon as I have these items and some voltage regulators I'm missing, I'll be good to dive into the rest of the project. Meanwhile, I'm working on the fuel proportional PWM code and interfacing with the fuel injector signals.
    I'm also trying to decide if I should stick with my current direction of using a five key system for interfacing with the user (four directional arrows and a central select button) or to go for a full blown 3x4 keypad that will allow for numbered menu selection and entry of data. In terms of code there really is no difference, in fact, the keypad will probably require less code but I also want to keep the units size down as much as possible.

    Russ.
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    I've received some of the sample IC's I ordered from maxim, the digital potentiometer and a DAC. I'm working on code for controlling those at the moment.
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    I'm having issues with the digital potentiometer sample that Maxim sent me, they just don't seem to want to work as designed. These are step up / step down type devices and I'm thinking that an I2C based design would be better anyway, therefore I going to evaluate other options here.

    Due to these setbacks I've decided to re-order the project and work full time on the fuel / load related PWM feature for the moment, with the aim of getting a working prototype to Larry ASAP. Once this is complete, I will return to the mainstream part of the project.

    Russ.
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    Today hasn't been a very good day, after spending the past days working on code to read pulse widths and translate them into frequency and duty cycle I hit a wall today when trying to interface with my truck.

    The wires to the fuel injector are reported by my multimeter to be operating at a hz rate which is what I would expect in relation to RPM, however, the meter reports 99% to 100% duty cycle which is obviously false for one injector.

    I went ahead and interfaced to my microcontroller and wrote some code to analyse the signal and feed back to a laptop, however, from all points it appears to the microcontroller as if the pulse never stops.

    I suppose I will think on this tonight and try again tomorrow. What I really need is a proper oscilloscope to analyse the signals going to the fuel injector, but they are effing expensive and my PC based scope just doesn't seem to be cutting it.

    Russ.
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    Well, it seems that I managed to blow up my number one fuel injector today, all by putting a multimeter on it. Looks like I will need to find another way of measuring fuel if this kind of tap is going to produce this kind of issue.
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