Wanted 85 LPM HHO generator.

[BoyntonStu]

Wanted 85 LPM HHO generator.

I calculated the equivalent HHO to supply a 20 MPG car going 60 MPH as 1,700 Liters for 20 miles in 20 minutes.

IOW Your electrolyzer cell needs to produce 85 LPM of HHO for 20 minutes to equal the energy of a Gallon (Imp) of gasoline.


If your cell runs at 7MMW at 13 Volts you would need 1,600 Amps.

Can you visualize it?

BoyntonStu

[oicu812]

true but at 240 volts dc its 86 amps. at 480 volts its 43 amps.

[Painless]

The power required in watts is still the same, however you twiddle the voltage.

[HHO BLASTER]

true but at 240 volts dc its 86 amps. at 480 volts its 43 amps.

LOL soooooooooooooooo, only good if you got a long wire to your car

[BoyntonStu]

Stu,

Look at the energy again:

Gasoline = 4864 kJ/mol

HHO = 285 kJ/mol

Yes that is a big difference. But now look as you ionize the oxygen:

1st ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 1313.9 = 1,968.85 kJ/mol
2nd ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 3388.3 = 3,006.15 kJ/mol
3rd ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 5300.5 = 3,962.25 kJ/mol
4th ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 7469.2 = 5,046.6 kJ/mol
5th ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 10909.5 = 6,766.75 kJ/mol
6th ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 13326.5 = 7,975.25 kJ/mol
7th ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 71330.0 = 36,977 kJ/mol
8th ionization level: H 1312 + 1/2 O 84078.0 = 43,351 kJ/mol

The key is not going to be delivering large volumes of HHO, it is going to be delivering ionized HHO.

That said if you just ionize HHO to the first level... we are only talking 12.304lpm per your estimates......

What Oxygen is left to ionize?

2H and 1O = H2O with no Oxygen remaining.

Who has done what you claim?

BoyntonStu

[oicu812]

LOL soooooooooooooooo, only good if you got a long wire to your car

maybe for someone as close minded and ignorant as you. there's many ways to transform voltage from 12 volts dc to just about any voltage you need.the question is how much money do you want to spend. I could easily build a 240 volt 86 amp dc power supply.

[oicu812]

I feel your pain shane... these people are so closed minded. god damn sheep.

[HHO BLASTER]

maybe for someone as close minded and ignorant as you. there's many ways to transform voltage from 12 volts dc to just about any voltage you need.the question is how much money do you want to spend. I could easily build a 240 volt 86 amp dc power supply.

Ok, sure that's easy to do, i just build one from old broken microwaves a 110 AC in 15 volts DC out, pushing a 85 AMP into a load that is on the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket of water and in 5 minutes its giving off steam.

BUT WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET THAT POWER IN YOUR CAR? UNLESS YOU HAVE A LONG CABLE OF 110 AC TO YOUR CAR

PLEASE SHOW ME HOW YOUR GOING TO DO IT

ALSO DON'T CALL ME IGNORANT YOU DON'T KNOW ME OR MY BACK GROUND OR MY SCHOOLING OR WHAT I HAVE DONE FOR A LIVING SINCE 1962
Gary

[Philldpapill]

oicu812, are you kidding me? You DO realize that if you "transform" a low voltage(12V) to a higher voltage(240V) and output 86A, you will STILL need a 12V source that can continuously crank out 1,720A... right? I'm sorry, but even a fully charged car battery will have a hell of a time putting out that much even for a second.

You DO NOT get around the high-current problem at all. I think it is you that is closed minded in the way that people can't talk any sense INTO you.

@Shane - where are you going to get the energy required to ionize the O2? That energy comes from somewhere, and I doubt it will be recouped in the engine. That train of thought is skating on the edge of talk of perpetual motion, which makes this subject(HHO) lose credibility.

[BoyntonStu]

"Philldpapill;29602]oicu812, are you kidding me? You DO realize that if you "transform" a low voltage(12V) to a higher voltage(240V) and output 86A, you will STILL need a 12V source that can continuously crank out 1,720A... right? I'm sorry, but even a fully charged car battery will have a hell of a time putting out that much even for a second.

You DO NOT get around the high-current problem at all. I think it is you that is closed minded in the way that people can't talk any sense INTO you."



People who BELIEVE don't really want to KNOW.

Their minds are made up without data or evidence to support their beliefs.

IOW Don't confuse us with the facts.

BoyntonStu