energy required > energy released ?

[Stratous]

If I remember correctly, we are not breaking the bonds that hold the two hydrogen atoms together only the bond that holds the oxygen and hydrogen together. so it sould be 2h + O, then the oxidation of the anode also produces an O molecule so its actually 2H + 2O.

[dennis13030]

If I remember correctly, we are not breaking the bonds that hold the two hydrogen atoms together only the bond that holds the oxygen and hydrogen together. so it sould be 2h + O, then the oxidation of the anode also produces an O molecule so its actually 2H + 2O.

What I saw was
2H2 + O2

[Stratous]

What I saw was
2H2 + O2

I am no chemist, but I am pretty sure Heavy Water is 2H2O. I am not sure how they could come up with 2H2 +O2 for breaking water with electrolysis. The addition of deuterium oxide is what gives water the 2 in front of the H making it 2H2O.

[dennis13030]

I wonder what reference I can use as the correct definitive source for this? Any ideas?

Hydrogen(H or H2) what's the usable difference?
Oxygen(O or O2) what's the usable difference?

[mneste8718]

I am no chemist, but I am pretty sure Heavy Water is 2H2O. I am not sure how they could come up with 2H2 +O2 for breaking water with electrolysis. The addition of deuterium oxide is what gives water the 2 in front of the H making it 2H2O.

The formation of water usually takes place like this

2H2+O2->2H2O

meaning that there are 2 resultant molecules. This isn't heavy water by no means.

[Stratous]

according to this it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water

[Stratous]

OK, here is from another source: 2H2O + ENERGY = 2H2 + O2 , I just dont get it, but then I am an aircraft mechanic, not a chemist ...lol

[mneste8718]

according to this it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water

From skimming that article, deutrium is a modified hydrogen atom because they differentiate between the two. It is also a radioactive isotope... this isn't anything that is related to producing HHO or the formation of water I don't think.

[mneste8718]

OK, here is from another source: 2H2O + ENERGY = 2H2 + O2 , I just dont get it, but then I am an aircraft mechanic, not a chemist ...lol

What do you not get? Two H2 molecules with two O molecules, done.

[Stratous]

On a side note, I just blew the hell out of my vacuum pump. I think I am deaf now. I was measuring the effect of vacuum on generation and um, I believe i got some spark mixed with my hho in the vacuum chamber. JESUS, that scared the crap out of me.