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    jerryrig Guest

    Question Lye?

    What is the best electrolyte that draws the most amps? Just curious? Is lye good to use and is it safe to use, and where do you get it? I tired epson salts the other night, I was not very happy with it. Plus, as it goes with the number of cells, what is the best electrolyte to use with only two plates. + and -.

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    jimbo40 Guest
    Whats with the 2 plates.
    I don't think you will be very productive no matter what solution you use.

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    dennis13030 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by jerryrig View Post
    What is the best electrolyte that draws the most amps? Just curious? Is lye good to use and is it safe to use, and where do you get it? I tired epson salts the other night, I was not very happy with it. Plus, as it goes with the number of cells, what is the best electrolyte to use with only two plates. + and -.
    Potassium Hydroxide(KOH) also known as caustic potash is used as a SURFACTANT in many detergents. SURFACTANTS lower the surface tension of water! After doing a good deal of research over 3 months, I am certain that KOH is the best chemical to use in electrolyzers. You only need to add it to the water once. The electrolysis does not deplete the KOH. So when you refill the water in your tank, all you need to do is ensure that your new water is mixed well with the old electrolyte.

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    rmptr Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by dennis13030 View Post
    Potassium Hydroxide(KOH) also known as caustic potash is used as a SURFACTANT in many detergents.
    Dennis, IMO THIS portion of your reply is incorrect.

    ...The caustic properties create the chemical action in cleaning products to break down a grimy substance.
    ...The surfactants employed enhance the ability of the cleaning product to keep that grime in suspension to remove it from the area of interest.

    Plenty of info at Thegrimescene.com or Thechemicalstore.com.

    Best

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis13030 View Post
    Potassium Hydroxide(KOH) also known as caustic potash is used as a SURFACTANT in many detergents. SURFACTANTS lower the surface tension of water! After doing a good deal of research over 3 months, I am certain that KOH is the best chemical to use in electrolyzers. You only need to add it to the water once. The electrolysis does not deplete the KOH. So when you refill the water in your tank, all you need to do is ensure that your new water is mixed well with the old electrolyte.

    So where/what is the best source to obain this stuff?
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    ICEMAN.KCMO Guest
    what is the mixture ratio of Lye and water???? also, where can you find this potash? any local stores?

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    msheppa Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by ICEMAN.KCMO View Post
    what is the mixture ratio of Lye and water???? also, where can you find this potash? any local stores?
    The ratio for what ever you use is different for each generator. The best way to measure is with an AMP meter. Add a little at a time. With lye, very little. Add until you are pulling between 5 and 8 amps through the generator. The longer your generator runs, the better it runs. The amps will rise. Keep in mind that AMPS & HEAT go hand in hand. The more AMPS, the more HEAT. At 20amps, you will be around 140 degrees F. For those of you useing PVC for your generator, be careful. PVC starts melting at 140F.

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    ICEMAN.KCMO Guest
    I just played with mine today... I ran it for 3 hrs and the temps got up to 170.... they stayed at 150 for a while and then they shot up.... It was pulling under 15 amps...

    I used 1 1/2 teaspoons of lye for 1/2 gallon..


    also, does output increase with heat???? Heat does speed up molocules.....

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    GOplayer Guest

    Question Lye driven HOD stopped working!

    You were absolutely right! Today I did my first test run after experimenting with HOD Gen in my garage and used 5 ml Sodium hydroxide for each of my two HOD Gen. with approximately 1 qrt Destilled water. The 1st 15 miles the temperature was OK but started to rise and by the 39th mile I had it up to 175F and rising. Tomorrow when I open up the HOD Gen and see the damage (if any) I make sure to start up the 2nd experiment with 1/8 tsp Sodium hydroxide or 1 ml and take it from there. BTW: Where can I get an inline gas meter that works under vacuum? I’d like to measure real time my HHO production so I can start altering the O2 Sensor’s data being send to the MAP sensor. Thanks Z
    NEXT DAY when all was cooled down and inspected my HOD Gen: All seemd fine. Can you explain to me why is my HOD Gen won’t work anymore despite the electricity is still present in the electrodes? My first road test brought up my HOD Gen close to 200F before I could turn it off.
    Since I cannot get a single bubble out of it. Did the chemical composition of Sodium Hydroxide change? Did some coating preventing my electrodes to work?

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    try a couple tsp of acid from an old car battery
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