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  1. #1
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    Crazy amps

    I read more and more of people cranking out outrageous 3, 5, 10 LPM, to produce this amount of gas you are using crazy amounts of amps. right? or am I missing something.....

    I think people need to step back and realize more amps mean more heat and the dreaded run away generator condition. The loads being put on the engine to produce that kind of output are negating much of economical gains. By using more fuel to create more heat that draws more amps that create more heat.......yikes

    If someone has found away of generating 5 LPM on 5 or even 10 amps then I'm sure there are thousand of people that would like to hear you what your doing............

    My system currently is limited to between 7 and 10amps, producing 1.5 LPM. That equates to +- 4% by volume of the A/F mixture.

    I've increased the MPG in my 2.9L Bronco, (around town) from 14.9 to 17.8.
    I've also experienced the usual gains in horse power, quieter and smoother running engine.

    I've adopted the philosophy of "less is more".

    Am I wrong?

    Jager

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager View Post
    I've adopted the philosophy of "less is better".

    Am I wrong?

    Jager
    I agree and no your not wrong.

    How big is your cell, wet or dry?

    I think small, compact, multiple cells if nessasary at 5-10 amps.

    This is what I would construct if I knew what cell plates they use www.poweremissionscontrol.com

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    That is a sweet little unit.......I wonder how much?

    I have a 16 plate wet/dry cell.. what I mean by that is, I've taken Plexiglas and cut it to the size of the sides of my stack to cut down on the voltage drain at the edges. I believe I've increased production by about 5%.

    Please excuse the sloppy gluing job, that marine grade epoxy is messy stuff.... you should see my shirt.
    One other thing I'm experimenting with is a throttle actuator switch. Very simple 12v on-off-on switch that's attached to the throttle linkage, it only turns the booster on when my foot is in the throttle.... not sure if it will improve performance or not but it seems to work fine. I have an indicator light inside the cab letting me know the booster is running.
    Note the single feed line feeding two inlets. Why have two separate tubes when the engine can decide on it's own the best location for the HHO via the strongest vacuum. This also seems work fine.



    Jager

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    I like the on off to the throttle linkage idea
    A micro switch would be good I think.
    If there is a lot of on and offing going on, the main relay should really be a solid state one. Relays with button style contacts aren't really meant to be repeatedly turned on and off all the time. It pits the contacts and some times after a while they arc and weld shut.

    Glen
    Mother Nature educates all of us that are teachable. She's hardest on the ones who refuse to learn. Punishment is automatic, immediate, and without pity.

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    I paid $18 for the relay that promises a 500K on off cycles... we'll see.

    The switch on the throttle is indeed a 12V micro switch from radio shack



    I glued the switch in place with a little 3M 90 spray glue and a small square of packing material as a spacer to bring it down to the throttle linkage. Alignment has been a problem, it stick on every once in a while... no worries, all I do is tap the throttle and it disengages.

  6. #6
    You are not to far off fro where your increase should be. You are currently getting an 83% increase which is not bad at all. You should be able to get another 10-20% increase at best.

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