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    Lightbulb how far can we cut the A/F and still run

    this is a question I had on another thread. and really wanted to see an answer.
    with an AFC you can control exacty what your F/A ratio is at any set rpm. of course you lose torque/hp so you try replacing that gas being cut with HHO.Lets say you have a 2.0 engine at highway rpms, say 2000 rpms, and producing "Y" LPM HHO, you can cut your fuel ratio down from 14.7:1 (isnt that the default in open loop?) to X:1. (X=air) and still have enough HP/torque to get up to 2000 RPMs and highway speeds.

    We need the F/A ratio needed to run an IC on only HHO. I think you can find it here but its over my head or maybe someone knows the answer
    ( http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8568558/...sed-IC-engines )

    knowing the A/F ratio of a HHO only IC engine we can find the value of X and know how far we can cut back our A/F ratio on a 2.0 liter engine while producing "Y" LPM of HHO and have enough HP/torque to drive the car at 2000 RPMs at highway speeds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz_McFugly View Post
    this is a question I had on another thread. and really wanted to see an answer.
    with an AFC you can control exacty what your F/A ratio is at any set rpm. of course you lose torque/hp so you try replacing that gas being cut with HHO.Lets say you have a 2.0 engine at highway rpms, say 2000 rpms, and producing "Y" LPM HHO, you can cut your fuel ratio down from 14.7:1 (isnt that the default in open loop?) to X:1. (X=air) and still have enough HP/torque to get up to 2000 RPMs and highway speeds.

    We need the F/A ratio needed to run an IC on only HHO. I think you can find it here but its over my head or maybe someone knows the answer
    ( http://www.docstoc.com/docs/8568558/...sed-IC-engines )

    knowing the A/F ratio of a HHO only IC engine we can find the value of X and know how far we can cut back our A/F ratio on a 2.0 liter engine while producing "Y" LPM of HHO and have enough HP/torque to drive the car at 2000 RPMs at highway speeds.
    I don't know what the answer is, but if it was me doing the experimenting, I would install a ETG (exhaust temperature gauge)
    To monitor the exhaust temp to make sure I'm not over heating the motor and risking damage from leaning out to much.
    If I had a AFC and A ETG I'd be all over it, but both of those items are pricey I looked into getting an ETG for my truck but the price kind of turned me away from the idea.
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    yea you would absolutely need an ATG when using a AFC, those valves will burn the frick up if you cut that fuel to much and then your fricked.
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    If you cut the air to gas down to 12:1 you will run hotter but if U install a vaporizer with hho it would cut the temp down. Exhaust temp sensor

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    me hiding behind a cooked pigs head
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    i think 12:1 would be an increase in fuel would it not?
    12 parts air to 1 part fuel.

    I think you meant to go the other way like 17.4:1 right?
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    I'd love to get to 17.4:1 ratio
    That would be the ticket I think!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz_McFugly View Post
    me hiding behind a cooked pigs head
    Wow, you are the prettiest dude i have ever seen.

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    Oh U SUK LOL
    pretty,,, damn U
    now i have to change my avitar so i dont get a complex
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helz_McFugly View Post
    Oh U SUK LOL
    pretty,,, damn U
    now i have to change my avitar so i dont get a complex
    LOL I thought it was the wife in the picture behind the pig head, but I did not want to say anything.
    Sorry
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