Weights and Measures

[Ronjinsan]

OK I have been trying to find an answer to the question I have been asking for so long about how much Hydrogen is the equivalent of Petrol!

Well I finally found this titbit, any takers?

423 CF of Hydrogen Gas @ STP (Standard Temperature and Pressure) this will equal same amount of Hydrogen as =1 gallon of Gasoline

Do the math on this. What you need to know....... a/ 1cubic foot is equal to 28.316 litres b/ Standard fuel mixture is 14.7 to 1.

One of my other questions was... How long will your car idle on 1 ltr of petrol? Assuming a standard 4cylinder, normally aspirated engine of say 2ltrs. I still dont have an answer to this but most people seem to agree on a figure of 1.5 to 2 hrs! Cheers

[gasmakr]

That's alot of gas

[Ronjinsan]

Unless our maths is real bad........Yep!!

[tbhavsar]

Hello,

I am wondering after producing HHO from the cell, where and How to collect it and then measure; please enlighten me.

[Stratous]

You can measure this way. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I will attempt to explain this. You will need your generator, a bottle, a bucket or something similar and a watch. Fill the bucket halfway with water, fill the bottle with water. Turn on your generator, take the hose and put it in the bottle of water. Get your watch ready and flip the bottle and hose over and place into the bucket of water. Time the amount of time it takes for the gas to force the water out of the upturned bottle. If you use a standard coke bottle it about 590 ml. If it takes a minute to fill the bottle with gas, then its about .5L per minute.

[Hydroginist]

Ron J
To help with your math a bit.
Hydrogen alone not HHO has a 38:1 fuel to air mix I haven't been able to find a Ratio specific to HHO as the Oxygen changes the ambient fuel to air mix some what.

Just a little more mud for the water

[Ronjinsan]

Thanks a stack Hydro, very usefull info to me and I hope to others! it helps to understand the effect of limited amounts on consumption and performance! The minimum mixture for a petrol engine is 22:1 so we can work things out from there............ Oh yeah Max is 8:1

[Fishhook]

I own an automotive repair facility in the Great State of Texas. This is the very heart of oil country. Oil is mind boggling-ly expensive to bring in these days, so, Texans are just as interested in higher mileage as everyone else.

With a background in science and biology, I feel that what we as humans don't know, far outweighs what we do know... so, all of the folks getting higher mileage, (and there seems to be quite a few), could not be coincidence. I am hoping that with the use of chatrooms, and the wonderful tool that is YOUTUBE, we will, as a group, be arriving at an ideal configuration for the HHO cell very soon.
I don't see why units making upwards of 12 liters per minute would not be feasible, once we, as group, get the physical cofiguration narrowed down. It may turn out, in fact that we need to install higher output electrical sources in our cars to run the HHO generators.
Anyway, there's the icebreaker,folks. Jay

[Stratous]

I am certain that one major factor is creating a vaccum inside the generator housing. I just need to figure out where a vaccum port is on my 5.9l cummins.

[Ronjinsan]

Oh come on Stratous...when the going gets tough and all that stuff.....do the unthinkable...drill a small hole in the manifold and tap it. Thread a small nipple in and voila! Hey if you dont think it works you can always block it off! Oh you will need a really strong piece of tubing as the vacuum is pretty high, have someone start it for you and watch the container for signs of collapse, you can tell them to switch off quickly before implosion!