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  1. #31
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    I got mine the other day. It's revision 5.2.
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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    this is the email i got back from dan...

    The latest revision 5.2 contains additional code needed to be compatible with Volo Distributor Programmers. This is not a critical update, and no map information has been changed. You are welcome to request the latest firmware update from our website. It may still be labeled as 5.1 on the site, but you will receive the latest version. We do not ship outdated firmware. Hopefully they will update the site soon. Thanks!

    Dan

    have you noticed any diff? and did you try with and without efie to notice diff? I thought the chip made efie input insignificant? I was considering adding efie to my cell and fs2 setup to get better than the minimal 1-3 mpg gains i'm seeing. Oh yeah and using the extenders..mmm.. thoughts?
    2000 ford focus zx3 2.0L Zetec, dual o2 extenders, volo-fs2. scanguage2 ; mountain driving. base ~26, now ~30mpg.

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    lhazleton, you still come here or just gone underground?
    2000 ford focus zx3 2.0L Zetec, dual o2 extenders, volo-fs2. scanguage2 ; mountain driving. base ~26, now ~30mpg.

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    Fs-2

    Yes fs-2 is way worth it, i have seen amazing results on every car or truck I have put it on! it must be used with hho to see best results! I just installed one on a 2008 Dogde Ram Hemi with 5.7L engine, and with two of my generators, boosted the mileage up 50%. So bone stock it was getting about average 14mpg, now consistently gets over 30mpg! Ive also done others, if your curious just ask!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanglide4life View Post
    lhazleton, you still come here or just gone underground?
    Hey Dan, I'm still here. I'm mostly over at the Underground, but I like this site too.
    As far as the upgraded FS2 goes, it does seem a bit better, but I'm not positive. An O2 EFIE is still necessary to see significant MPG gains. When I had my reactor in the truck, the FS2 made enough changes so that no error codes came up.
    Whenever I finish my new reactor, I'll post results.
    Lee
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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    Mileage gain

    Quote Originally Posted by Helz_McFugly View Post
    thats correct. I had a 6x3 cell that made 1LPM. I filled up today for the first time with my new e-lyzer which is 6x9 and makes 1.5LPM at 6MMW and im getting 27MPG's now. so its up to 8MPG gain.
    Is the statement "more HHO gas - more MPG gain" correct or not? I am new to the forum and still gather information about HHO supplement. My personal experience with HHO gen only (no any ECU chipping yet) is very unsuccessful. More info about my experience is here:
    http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=8039

    So is it true that as much Brown's Gas you add as much MPG gain you get?
    Thancs in advance for any information provided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almaghm View Post
    Is the statement "more HHO gas - more MPG gain" correct or not? I am new to the forum and still gather information about HHO supplement. My personal experience with HHO gen only (no any ECU chipping yet) is very unsuccessful. More info about my experience is here:
    http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=8039

    So is it true that as much Brown's Gas you add as much MPG gain you get?
    Thancs in advance for any information provided.
    More HHO doesn't mean more mpg gain, You have to use the amount that is optimal for your vehicle. Normally that is calculated at .5 lpm for every liter of engine displacement in gasoline vehicles and 1LPM per displacement in diesel vehicles. But this is depending on the vehicle, some like more and some like less. No vehicle is the same, you have to experiment with what you need for your own use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havens78 View Post
    More HHO doesn't mean more mpg gain, You have to use the amount that is optimal for your vehicle. Normally that is calculated at .5 lpm for every liter of engine displacement in gasoline vehicles and 1LPM per displacement in diesel vehicles. But this is depending on the vehicle, some like more and some like less. No vehicle is the same, you have to experiment with what you need for your own use.

    Where I can find this information. I mean, I know that my car is l4, 2 liter gasoline Mazda. But what requirements for the ammount of HHO gas, I have no idea. here is the information from one of the HHO generators selleres:

    Alexey Magher: The ratio to achieve results using HHO as a fuel supplement, is determined by the engine displacement for which engine the Cell will be installed with. Normally, it is 25% of the Liter displacement of that engine to begin seeing results. For example, if the engine is a 1.5 liter engine (1500 cc), then .375 Liters Per Minute (LPM) is required to see any results. For those that desire much higher results, really, they can go 1 to 1 or even higher.

    On average, using the 25% ratio, the end user will see some results, but not greatly increased miles per gallon results. Minimally, these are some of the noticeable benefits:

    Carbon and gunk buildup in the engine will disappear
    Improved fuel/air mixture
    improves emissions by lowering the carbon emissions of that engine
    slight increase in horsepower (5% to 10%)
    less wear and tear of the engine

    If a larger cell is installed, 125% HHO production per 1 liiter of engine displacement and tuned properly, the end user can begin to significantly improve their miles per gallon or decrease fuel consumption; then the end user can expect on avg of 25% gain in mileage or a 25% reduction in fuel consumption. If 200% HHO production per 1 liiter of engine displacement and tuned properly, the end user can expect up to a 50% mileage gain or 50% decrease in fuel consumption.

    For most smaller automobiles with a 1.6-2.0 liter engine that the end user is desiring a 25% increase in their mileage we recommend a cell that produces minimum 2 LPM, but can produce up to 4 LPM.

    For enterprise applications, for example a Tractor Trailer / Big Rig with an engine displacement of 885cu in. (14.5 Liter Displacement), we recommend using our TT series TT186 which requires 144-540 amps of current at 12-14 volts DC and produced 18-36 LPM of HHO. This obviously requires an alternator upgrade, since the majority of stock alternators are 250 amp, but the costs justifies the means and in terms of costs, $400-$500 for an alternator is nothing compared to the extensive fuel savings.

    Whatever your engine displacement is, we have the right HHO Dry Cell for your needs.

    Displacement Minimum LPM 25% Gain Avg 50% Gain Avg
    Engine: 1.5 Liter 0.38 LPM 1.88 LPM 3.76 LPM
    Engine: 2 Liter 0.50 LPM 2.50 LPM 5.00 LPM
    Engine: 2.5 Liter 0.63 LPM 3.13 LPM 6.26 LPM
    Engine: 3 Liter 0.75 LPM 3.75 LPM 7.50 LPM
    Engine: 3.5 Liter 0.88 LPM 4.38 LPM 8.76 LPM
    Engine: 4 Liter 1.00 LPM 5.00 LPM 10.00 LPM
    Engine: 4.5 Liter 1.13 LPM 5.63 LPM 11.26 LPM
    Engine: 5 Liter 1.25 LPM 6.25 LPM 12.5 LPM
    Engine: 5.5 Liter 1.38 LPM 6.88 LPM 13.76 LPM
    Engine: 6 Liter 1.50 LPM 7.50 LPM 15.00 LPM
    Engine: 6.5 Liter 1.63 LPM 8.13 LPM 16.26 LPM
    Engine: 7 Liter 1.75 LPM 8.75 LPM 17.50 LPM
    Engine: 7.5 Liter 1.88 LPM 9.38 LPM 18.76 LPM
    Engine: 8 Liter 2.00 LPM 10.00 LPM 20.00 LPM
    Engine: 8.5 Liter 2.13 LPM 10.63 LPM 21.26 LPM
    Engine: 9 Liter 2.25 LPM 11.25 LPM 22.50 LPM
    Engine: 9.5 Liter 2.38 LPM 11.88 LPM 25.76 LPM
    Engine: 10 Liter 2.50 LPM 12.50 LPM 25.00 LPM
    Engine: 10.5 Liter 2.63 LPM 13.13 LPM 26.26 LPM
    Engine: 11 Liter 2.75 LPM 13.75 LPM 27.50 LPM
    Engine: 11.5 Liter 2.88 LPM 14.38 LPM 28.76 LPM
    Engine: 12.0 Liter 3 LPM 15.00 LPM 30.00 LPM
    Engine: 12.5 Liter 3.13 LPM 15.63 LPM 31.26 LPM
    Engine: 13.0 Liter 3.25 LPM 16.25 LPM 32.50 LPM
    Engine: 13.5 Liter 3.38 LPM 16.88 LPM 33.76 LPM
    Engine: 14.0 Liter 3.5 LPM 17.5 LPM 35.00 LPM
    Engine: 14.5 Liter 3.63 LPM 18.13 LPM 36.26 LPM

    That is why I bought second generator with productivity 2lpm minimum, and up to 6lpm.

    If you go to my post ( http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=8039 ), you will see what results I gain ( it was very unpleasant, but only you check it up and answered to me there.

  9. #39
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    Fs2 hho chip

    Hello.I've had the FS2 running on my truck for about a week.I'm not seeing much improvement.I drive mainly stop and go traffic.Running Global Energy's solo generator.Running at about 12amps.Chip is connected properly and was set up correctly.I have a 2011 GMC short bed 4x4 PU with the 4.8L engine.Any body running anything similar?What would be a good start amperage to run this thing at?I'm pretty sure I read somewhere how much HHO you should run per liter.Just can't seem to remember where I saw that.

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