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Okay, then you prove to me mathematically that this is not so. I have "?" and asked for you to correct me if I am wrong. I do not see any corrections in your rude comments. So who you working for first off? What makes you the expert if you can not do the math. I am going by what I have read on the net from other HHO sites? Then I am using simple deduction. How much does a liter of water expand too in HHO? I know one thing, 1 gallon of water has more energy in it than a gallon of gasoline. If you can get 200 miles per gallon of gasoline or for the sake of argument even 100 MPG then it is easily obtainable in water to do the same once it is broken down to Hydrogen and Oxygen. So lets see the math. Put your money where your mouth is in other words. What you have been showing me so far is a bunch of bull. Show us all the truth since your are suppose to be the expert I am suppose to believe on your say so alone? Yea right. Let's see it. You saying that for over a century that all the scientist who claimed there was a inexhaustible source of power in water that is far superior in every way to gasoline is now all the sudden a myth? I want to see the math to prove it? Not the math used on electrolysis either because Meyer's did not use electrolysis. This is not electrolysis and you are not including the extra EMF coming from the shut down of electricity to the WFC or capacitor that also could be used to charge batteries and supply more energy. I took electronics and this is basic info in electronics. Show me the math? Show me how much HHO comes out of a gallon of water? I was told it was 30 times whatever the amount of water is. Show me the truth here? Correct me! Then I will recalculate it correctly if I am wrong.

Also the patents office refused to patent Meyer's patent until he took the machine into the office and demonstrated his claims. They freaked when they saw he was producing HHO in the building at that volume.

The only reason Meyer's was judged as committing fraud is because the Judge was bought and paid for and his hired expert added something into the tap water which made it a electrolytic solution thus removing the properties of the experiment as it was meant to be. He appealed also and won from what I learned.

Also he was assassinated. That is more than enough to tell the truth. You do not get assassinated unless you are a threat to someone with money and power. He was!

Also if you try to use the theory of thermodynamics on this you are out in lulu land. This is more to do with electronics and how many times has the theory of thermodynamics been changed in the past 50 years? It keeps changing because it is only a theory and not a fact. Just like the theory of evolution is not a fact and they keep changing it also to fit their goal to make people think there is not a creator. They do not want to be held accountable to that creator is why. Of course that is going to happen wither they want to believe it or not.

So show me the math just for how much HHO is produced from one gallon of water? We will start from there.
People who have lost an argument often go into attack mode simply because they have nothing. The Meyer's supporters are often in attack mode simply because Meyer's work may have had some merit, but as a whole, it does not perform as they want it to. Simply give me ONE working example of the Meyer device, and I will be a true believer also. To be exact, I have investors that can bring it to market. They don't need belief, they just want it to WORK. I have reviewed literally dozens of inventions for them and that is all they seek - something that they can make money on. They didn't make their money by simply buying inventions just to shelve them. They buy tech to use their money to make MORE money! If they are so evil, and the root of all evil is the love of money, it follows that these evil money bags will do whatever they can to take a tech like Meyer's device and make money off of it! I challenge YOU. If you have a working device, let us meet, you demonstrate it, and you can save the world from the coming oil collapse while making enough money to make saving the world worthwhile. This is an honest offer I extend to anyone and all Meyers' supporters. If you have gotten hold of a working Meyers device, let's meet. I'll review the device under a NDA to determine that it does indeed work and we will have you meet with investors to negotiate a purchase of the example device.

Please do not send me internet links to "prove" Meyer's devices work.

Remember, it is you who needs to prove your Meyer device. Use your electronics background. Use good math. Use your electronics degree, and produce a Meyer device. That is the bottom line.

And Thermodynamics is a set of LAWS that is added to constantly. It is proven everyday in it's application. It flat out WORKS!

As to your last challenge for calculations, I'll give you the start, and you can furnish the answer as an exercise in learning.

Take one Mole of water molecules. It can be dissociated to form one mole of oxygen and two of hydrogen. Both form diatomic pairs. Run this molar mass into the gas laws at STP and you will get the volume of HHO produced from one mole of pure water ( 18.02 grams). Divide the 18.02 into a thousand to get the result from a liter stand point. It is a surprisingly large number.