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    Andy,
    Nice plans for a 6x6. Did you use them? I'm just curious, 'cuz the e/lyte hole is centered in the drawings.
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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    Angry

    Quote Originally Posted by Autowrench View Post
    Hello, lhazleton, you speak from a position of knowledge, so please, enlighten this poor garage mechanic with how to do this? The jar does in fact work as promised on my TPI 350 V-8 4300 pound van, but not like I would love it to! I would really love to get 70 mpg, but these dry cells cost a great deal of money to buy, and even plans are high, so us poor people are stuck with what we have, I guess. My van, super tuned, was getting 18 mpg on a good day, and eating us alive. With the little jar we are now getting over 35 mpg on the same brand of gas. I know the HHO is not a fuel, but is more like a fuel enhancer, which makes the gasoline a lot more efficient. And I am saving over $100 a month. Show me a better way for less than $150.00, and I am all ears.
    Please, I know that you want to impress folks here and I appreciate that. I would love to impress someone as well. SH*T, I would even love to impress my wife but even she does not beleive 4 inches is the same as a foot.

    All BS kidding aside and I am sorry for the length joke but that is exactly the same as a 100% improvement im MPG with a mason jar and a couple of bolts. Improvements are difficult to come by even for the best here.

    If you had only spent just a few hours reading threads before you made your post you would realize just how foolish this post was. We have all been there abd done that thanks to one of the biggest and richest scammers of all time. His name is Ozzy Freedom. Just google him before you reply. At one time his bunch was getting over $500.00 for your so called six pack design. I will admit it. I once bought his plans and the Hydrostar plans as well.

    Please start over and do some research here. Then get to work and spend your money wisely. You can make a decent device for your $150.00 then the work starts. After spending some time admiring your work and bench testing it you can start trying to get your ECU to accept HHO boosting.

    Damn you Lee. Your post on the Underground made me read this thread. Otherwise I would have overlooked it and went to sleep with 6 less beers still beleiving 4" was a foot.

    Larry
    2008 Nissan Frontier 4X4 Nismo. 12 MPG baseline with my normal commute and heavy stop and go daily driving. Generator installed and working on 3/29/2009

    Up to 14.5 MPG with no enhancers. Still testing the effects of lots of HHO and no electronic enhancers.

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    Larry, you have to be careful Lee has the ability to make that foot four inches or even less. LOL A mason jar wont help either.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb."

    ONE Liter per minute per 10 amps which just isn't possible Ha Ha .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lhazleton View Post
    Andy,
    Nice plans for a 6x6. Did you use them? I'm just curious, 'cuz the e/lyte hole is centered in the drawings.
    I also made a 4x4 design then decided on the best course of action would be dual hole design
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    Andy
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    21 Plate 3" X 7" KOH Dry Cell

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    Quote Originally Posted by lhazleton View Post
    Andy,
    Nice plans for a 6x6. Did you use them? I'm just curious, 'cuz the e/lyte hole is centered in the drawings.
    I also made a 4x4 design then decided on the best course of action would be a 4x7 dual hole design



    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    21 Plate 3" X 7" KOH Dry Cell

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    My car is seeing an honest 44% increase in MPG. When I first put an HHO system on, back in November, I only saw a 4% increase, and that was with a comercial dry cell system. Lost of reading later, I rebuilt the cells the way they should have been in the first place, switched to the right electrolyte, and was seeing a 15% gain. Then cam totally redesigned cells that would actually handle the amperage required to produce the amount of HHO my engine needed -- a few tweeks here and there, some updated electronics, and I'm now at 44% --- and I think I still have a few more % to squeze out of her.

    The point is, it's not easy. There are so many scam artest out there selling junk -- and/or propogating false information -- that it takes most of us a lot of time, effort and money to get where we want to be. Some of us try to pass on our learned knowledge, either through forums like this or by building and sell systems our self (or both), but we are still battling the scam artest at every step
    1991 Plymouth Acclaim 3L V6.
    1 dry cells with nineteen 6"x8" 316L ss plates, driven by constant current PWM set at 35 amps (13.3V at PWM). 28% KOH electrolyte. Total measured output 2.5 lpm. Mileage went from 18 to 26 mpg, all city driving (44% increase). EFIE set at .370 and I still need to play with ignition timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2OPWR View Post

    Damn you Lee. Your post on the Underground made me read this thread. Otherwise I would have overlooked it and went to sleep with 6 less beers still beleiving 4" was a foot.

    Larry
    Sorry Larry, but I knew everyone would like to jump into this bull$hit thread. After all, since Richard disappeared, we haven't had much fun with douchebags.
    I'm leaving for a 2 and a half week vacation, so you can get some rest until Sept. 7th.
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by koya1893 View Post

    Look if that "Jar" system is that great, I never got one to reverse engineer, I would buy one just to do it now and reverse engineer it to reveal the secret and share it here.
    Ben,
    If you want one to reverse engineer, I'll build one and send it to you. They only take about an hour to assemble from scratch. It's a jar with a plastic lid(that'll melt & leak), an X plexiglass 'tower', stainless wire, 2 bolts for wiring, a plastic elbow (gas port) and, believe it or not, a little aquarium stone hooked up to a tube running to a valve that allows you to adjust the amount of outside air entering the reactor(if you want to call it that). It's pretty cool. You hook it up to a vacuum source and as it draws from the jar, bubbles come from the stone and it makes it look similar to one of our real reactors if it was producing like $hit.
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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    Do tell us MORE...
    I want one dem dar milage doublers...
    96 E-250 4.9L, 100,000 Miles.
    12.5 MPG Befor HHO
    16.5 (Best) after HHO.
    Modified Smack Gen I Cell.

    85 BMW 524TD
    26-32MPH
    HHO Coming soon

    A TOOL Is only as GOOD as it's operator. If the Operator DON'T KNOW How to work it, The TOOL WON'T WORK

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    Cool

    Dear GJP (Glass Jar People),

    If you want cheap, simple and easy to come by at a store local to your place of experimentation;

    1. Go to Home Depot (Lowes wont work)
    2. Buy 4 11/16" square conduit covers for $1 ea.
    3. Buy some hose elbows
    4. Buy $4 worth of tubing
    5. Pick up a small piece of acrylic sheet
    6. If you cannot figure out how to build the simple and basic dry cell with those directions then return everything and stop making the rest of us look bad.

    Sincerly,

    Someone wanting greater financial freedom and independence for the old outdated energy sources.

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