2004 Dodge Pickup Runs on 100% Water

[Autowrench]

2004 Dodge Pickup Runs on 100% Water, no gasoline in the tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py8QYt54EpE

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Hope these guys go into production!

[myoldyourgold]

Look at the video and you will see it does not make sense. He says he tested the car with bottled H2 and bottled O and found it needs 11.9 cubic feet per minute. That is 337 liters per minute. He also says they are making 55 lpm at 55 amps. OK where does the other 282 lpm come form. These guys are a JOKE. Do not waste your time!!!

Check this out for more info: http://www.hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=6551

[H2OPWR]

OK, For anyone who has any hope that these guys are for real lets look at some facts.

1) If you listen to and watch both these guys video's they claim that their PWM reduces voltage. They claim 55 LPM at 55 amps and 3 volts. WE ALL KNOW THAT PWM'S DO NOT REDUCE VOLTAGE!!!! They must be checking the voltage downstream of the PWM and simply do not understand the facts.

2) They Claim 55 LPM yet it takes over 2 minutes to make 5 PSI in that little cell. It would get to 60 PSI in a matter of seconds. When I called them on it their excuse was that the cell was leaking. If the cell was leaking how did they ever get to the 60 PSI they later show in the video? ANOTHER LIE!

3) I could go on and on here but this is the clincher and these guys are just too stupid to even do some research before they lie. Lets do some simple math. It is well known and documented fact that Hydrogen will nor ignite at concentrations of less than 4% by volume in air.

Their truck is a 4.7 Liter V/8. That engine will draw in 2.35 Liters of air each revolution. At a normal idle speed of 700 RPM's the engine will draw in 1645 liters of air in. They would need that Hydrogen/Air mixture to contain 1579.2 liters of atmosphere and 65.8 liters of pure Hydrogen to even get it to ignite and burn. That does not take in to count the energy losses with heat and friction in the motor. Their claimed 55 LPM HHO contains 36.7 liters of Hydrogen or only about half enough to even ignite let alone do any useful work.

I wish what they are claiming was true but the facts are right in front of everyones faces and they mostly just want to beleive. Theys guys are scammers and liars trying to get some money from someone and too stupid to even make up a beleivable lie.

Please do not waste any more of your valuable time paying any attention to these idiots!

Larry

[jeffp]

I can't really see how they get 60 psi. from this cell.
I would guess the fuel rail still has some fuel pressure.
Possibly they have more than just water in the cell.
Maybe another fuel like alcohol.
Its interesting to watch, but probably scam.

[Roland Jacques]

Great point about the volume of as needed, enough said.

Side note; Is it possible to even use a fuel injector to deliver HHO, or any pressurized gases, in enough quantity to run and engine? That was my first flag, but since I'm not positive about the answer, that flag was more orange than red. If it is possible there are other applications for that.

Lot of other red flags. but that was my only orange one.

[Roland Jacques]

I have a feeling that the one who may have got scamed may have been the "inventor's" "Partner. He shows up to get results varifide and his inventor was a no show. And it did not work. That would suck.

[charly2]

Great point about the volume of as needed, enough said.

Side note; Is it possible to even use a fuel injector to deliver HHO, or any pressurized gases, in enough quantity to run and engine? That was my first flag, but since I'm not positive about the answer, that flag was more orange than red. If it is possible there are other applications for that.

Lot of other red flags. but that was my only orange one.

I have had that crazy idea or question before while I was reading about the Meyer´s water&hho spark plug inyectors, what if you use the already installed, in use and controlled injectors in the ice?, not for water, just pressurized hho.
Are they are going to wear working dry?
Maybe one of these days I will try it, but before I have to finish my "standard" hho project.

[H2OPWR]

Great point about the volume of as needed, enough said.

Side note; Is it possible to even use a fuel injector to deliver HHO, or any pressurized gases, in enough quantity to run and engine? That was my first flag, but since I'm not positive about the answer, that flag was more orange than red. If it is possible there are other applications for that.

Lot of other red flags. but that was my only orange one.

Roland, You could use injectors to inject HHO directly into the engine. In fact I beleive you should use them if this were to ever be possible. The stock injectors would never do the trick. They are made for gasoline. Since the energy content of gasoline by volume is many many times greater than HHO those stock injectors could never in a million years provide enough HHO to get an engine to fire. The injectors would have to be much larger.

Larry

[mmmjjg]

Their truck is a 4.7 Liter V/8. That engine will draw in 2.35 Liters of air each revolution. At a normal idle speed of 700 RPM's the engine will draw in 1645 liters of air in. They would need that Hydrogen/Air mixture to contain 1579.2 liters of atmosphere and 65.8 liters of pure Hydrogen to even get it to ignite and burn. That does not take in to count the energy losses with heat and friction in the motor. Their claimed 55 LPM HHO contains 36.7 liters of Hydrogen or only about half enough to even ignite let alone do any useful work.

Question.....out of curiosity what if no atmosphere is taken in and its just hydroxy? No nitrogen no CO2 just the hydrogen and oxygen made by the cell?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1MeR4My6XA
Ik that the way the cell is designed it needs more power then their vehicle puts out but is there any sense behind using a vaccum regulator and a vapor carb? Is it possiable to do this using a different, more efficient cell? I'm only fifteen and ive been looking into hho for a while and i keep reading but i need some help figuring out some things like this

[myoldyourgold]

The current up date on Fast Freddy is it's looking more and more like a scam. Here is a quote from some one that has known Fast Freddy very well for years.

Good morning sir, just wanted to let you know that fast Freddie is alive and scheming in his home town of Prescott, AZ. He is a liar of the highest
sort, you'll never see any kind of truth from this snake oil salesman. He
has eluded most people he scams, and very few have ever gotten any money
back. Run while you still can!

I personally have no idea but based on what he has said in the past I have a hard time believing anything Fast Freddy says. He might be a good craftsman but other than that, the jury is still out but doesn't look good at all.