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    Wet cell design- need help

    I have a 1988 toyota pickup; 2.4 Liter, 4 cylinder, carburetor. I built a "smack's booster" type system but did not use his electrical plate cell example. I used two large stainless grill spatulas.

    This is my first build and I just wanted to make something quick figuring I can change the cell out later.

    Is this a good design for my truck?

    What continuous current level should I be aiming for?

    How much Liters per minute should I produce? 1.2 lpm?

    How can I get the required lpm with the least amount of current?


    Thanks!

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    Croghanite,
    You need to do some research. Using only 2 electrodes (spatulas) will do nothing except make tons of steam & draw lots of amperage. Having 1 anode and 1 cathode is a single cell with 13.8 vdc. is just wrong. The target area you want is around 2vdc. per cell. This can only be obtained by adding bi-polar (neutral) plates between the powered plates (+NNNNN-). This will give you 2.3vdc. per cell, or (+NNNNNN-) for 1.97vdc..
    An open bath design is very inefficient to say the least. You are correct, however, that your engine will need about 1.4LPM to see any gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lhazleton View Post
    Croghanite,
    You need to do some research. Using only 2 electrodes (spatulas) will do nothing except make tons of steam & draw lots of amperage. Having 1 anode and 1 cathode is a single cell with 13.8 vdc. is just wrong. The target area you want is around 2vdc. per cell. This can only be obtained by adding bi-polar (neutral) plates between the powered plates (+NNNNN-). This will give you 2.3vdc. per cell, or (+NNNNNN-) for 1.97vdc..
    An open bath design is very inefficient to say the least. You are correct, however, that your engine will need about 1.4LPM to see any gains.
    Thanks. I figured it was no good but as I said I wanted something quick to get the ball rolling. It is producing .5lpm at 25 amps.

    So should I go with smacks electrical cover plate cell or something else?

    Will I get gains on smacks design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croghanite View Post
    Thanks. I figured it was no good but as I said I wanted something quick to get the ball rolling. It is producing .5lpm at 25 amps.

    So should I go with smacks electrical cover plate cell or something else?

    Will I get gains on smacks design?
    What you're working on is a good way to get your feet wet. I think we all started out the same way
    As I stated before, a 'wet cell' design isn't going to do much. The .5LPM you're getting is mostly steam rather than hydroxy. It's taking more energy to produce the HHO than is being delivered. As you progress in your experimentation, you'll eventually realize this & build a 'drycell' reactor. Mine puts out 2+LPM drawing only 22 amps, and there is no steam, just gas.
    Keep on plugging & don't get discouraged. We've all been there..........

    This is an old reactor I built last year, but it'll give you an idea:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/LeeHazleton
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by lhazleton View Post
    What you're working on is a good way to get your feet wet. I think we all started out the same way
    As I stated before, a 'wet cell' design isn't going to do much. The .5LPM you're getting is mostly steam rather than hydroxy. It's taking more energy to produce the HHO than is being delivered. As you progress in your experimentation, you'll eventually realize this & build a 'drycell' reactor. Mine puts out 2+LPM drawing only 22 amps, and there is no steam, just gas.
    Keep on plugging & don't get discouraged. We've all been there..........
    Thanks again. I am just trying to figure out if i will get any gains on the wet cell design. If I cant then I should scrap it and start a dry cell.

    BTW all that steam can't be good for an engine!!!!!!!!!

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    The steam carries KOH or whatever you're using in the electrolyte into the engine. Any aluminum (throttle body, carb, etc.) will be destroyed very quickly.
    1998 Explorer 4x4, 4.0
    14 cell / 2 stack 6x9" drycell reactor 28%KOH dual EFIE, MAF enhancer, IAT & ECT controllers, 2.4 LPM @ 30 amps. 6.35 MMW http://reduceyourfuelbill.com.au/forum/index.php

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