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    Government Regulation

    Has any one come across any Govt. Regulations controlling HHO generator installation? Does any one know of any rules framed by any authority for installation of HHO generator in Vehicles in their area/country? Has any one faced any regulatory problems with vehicle installed with HHO generator?
    We would also like to know if any insurance claim has been denied or accepted for the vehicle installed with HHO generator.
    We would like to know if there are any rules or regulation accepting HHO generator installation or defining any rules for HHO generator. We are facing couple of queries as to if HHO is approved by any authority in any country. Please help us to make HHO legal in any country.

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    I can't speak for everyone, but here in New York State, if your running a HHO system and your check engine light comes on you will fail your NYS inspection. If you tamper with any emision control sensors you can be arrested and charged with a crime. If you called your insurance agent and mentioned... " Oh by the way, I'm generating an explosive mix of hydrogen and oxygen under the hood of my car" they'll drop your policy like a hot potatoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oicu812 View Post
    ~~~the hood of my car" they'll drop your policy like a hot potatoe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oicu812 View Post
    I can't speak for everyone, but here in New York State, if your running a HHO system and your check engine light comes on you will fail your NYS inspection. .
    Last I Knew, In N.Y., if the Light is ON, you'd fail, HHO or Not.....
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    that is correct. In NY if the light is on you fail Trying to circumvent the O2 sensors would be tampering and illeagle. In this state if you want to experiment with HHO you have to do it on the sly and disconnect everything before you take it in for its anual inspection. Its a good idea to disconnect everything at least a month in advance and give the computer time to rebuild its stored data. I don't agree with the State but unfortunatly it is what it is. I know its a crappy deal but I'm just trying to answer the guys question honestly .

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    Yeah, NY sucks with the inspections. It used to be all about safety. Now, you can have a ball-joint ready to fall off and you'll pass as long as the CEL isn't on. Stupid state. I don't disconnect my system for state inspections though. Where I bring my truck they just hook up the computer to the OBD2 port and it passes.
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    This warning is posted on some sites that sell HHO stuff. I think it is pretty clear that we are all in violation of making cleaner exhausts and could get fined for it. Now that sucks!!! You would think it would be the other way around.

    WARNING: In the U.S.A. or Canada, federal law makes it illegal for ANYONE to tamper with, disconnect, remove or otherwise render inoperative ANY automotive emissions related control device. In general, the entire fuel system and all its individual components (including the EFI ECU) are considered 'emissions related control devices'. The penalties for tampering can be substantial. A violation may make you liable for a fine of $2,500 or even more!
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    Heeheehee...
    In Fla. several years ago, the governor's Winnebago failed an emission test and it ****ed him off so much that within one year of that little incident, we no longer have the dreaded inspection in this state...
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    Just gotta rub it in Gus............
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    The files are big, but these are official US DOT, CANADIAN DOT and NASA documents on use and installation of HHO systems on highway equipment.
    http://smarthho.org/documents/
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