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    Quote Originally Posted by DaneDHorstead View Post
    You do not need a working model for most patents, with the exception of a perpetual motion device (US patent, that is).

    Many applications have been made for a PM device, but to date. none have been issued.
    True, but how many patents were awarded for something that should have been labeled a perpetual motion device but instead labeled something like: "Methods for controlling the path of magnetic flux from a permanent magnet and devices incorporating the same." They didn't create a PM that worked, they just filed for a patent with a drawing.

    Check out the wiki on PM and look at the patent section.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
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    Some days I get the sinking feeling that Orwell was an optimist!

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    Here is a vid on the subject http://techtv.mit.edu/file/1303/
    interesting stuff.

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    I just wanna say that I was the first one of my friends that was interested in HHO. I started building them by myself and one day I was working on one and my buddy chris came over and he started to help me. The next day he had all these great new idea he wanted to try. Now I have three of the smartest people I know working on these things. Even though we have actually improved out mpg we have found out what works.

    I am just tryin to say thanks to you guys for getting and keeping me interested and involved in solving the worlds problems

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    Just found this

    Quote Originally Posted by Boltazar View Post
    Got this today thought all might be interested;



    "Major Discovery" From MIT Primed to Unleash Solar Revolution
    Thursday 31 July 2008
    by: Anne Trafton, MIT News
    Scientists mimic essence of plants' energy storage system.


    In a revolutionary leap that could transform solar power from a marginal, boutique alternative into a mainstream energy source, MIT researchers have overcome a major barrier to large-scale solar power: storing energy for use when the sun doesn't shine.

    Until now, solar power has been a daytime-only energy source, because storing extra solar energy for later use is prohibitively expensive and grossly inefficient. With today's announcement, MIT researchers have hit upon a simple, inexpensive, highly efficient process for storing solar energy.

    Requiring nothing but abundant, non-toxic natural materials, this discovery could unlock the most potent, carbon-free energy source of all: the sun. "This is the nirvana of what we've been talking about for years," said MIT's Daniel Nocera, the Henry Dreyfus Professor of Energy at MIT and senior author of a paper describing the work in the July 31 issue of Science. "Solar power has always been a limited, far-off solution. Now we can seriously think about solar power as unlimited and soon."

    Inspired by the photosynthesis performed by plants, Nocera and Matthew Kanan, a postdoctoral fellow in Nocera's lab, have developed an unprecedented process that will allow the sun's energy to be used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen gases. Later, the oxygen and hydrogen may be recombined inside a fuel cell, creating carbon-free electricity to power your house or your electric car, day or night.

    The key component in Nocera and Kanan's new process is a new catalyst that produces oxygen gas from water; another catalyst produces valuable hydrogen gas. The new catalyst consists of cobalt metal, phosphate and an electrode, placed in water. When electricity - whether from a photo voltaic cell, a wind turbine or any other source - runs through the electrode, the cobalt and phosphate form a thin film on the electrode, and oxygen gas is produced.

    Combined with another catalyst, such as platinum, that can produce hydrogen gas from water, the system can duplicate the water splitting reaction that occurs during photosynthesis.

    The new catalyst works at room temperature, in neutral pH water, and it's easy to set up, Nocera said. "That's why I know this is going to work. It's so easy to implement," he said.

    "Giant Leap" for Clean Energy

    Sunlight has the greatest potential of any power source to solve the world's energy problems, said Nocera. In one hour, enough sunlight strikes the Earth to provide the entire planet's energy needs for one year.

    James Barber, a leader in the study of photosynthesis who was not involved in this research, called the discovery by Nocera and Kanan a "giant leap" toward generating clean, carbon-free energy on a massive scale.

    "This is a major discovery with enormous implications for the future prosperity of humankind," said Barber, the Ernst Chain Professor of Biochemistry at Imperial College London. "The importance of their discovery cannot be overstated since it opens up the door for developing new technologies for energy production thus reducing our dependence for fossil fuels and addressing the global climate change problem."

    "Just the Beginning"

    Currently available electrolyzers, which split water with electricity and are often used industrially, are not suited for artificial photosynthesis because they are very expensive and require a highly basic (non-benign) environment that has little to do with the conditions under which photosynthesis operates.

    More engineering work needs to be done to integrate the new scientific discovery into existing photo voltaic systems, but Nocera said he is confident that such systems will become a reality.

    "This is just the beginning," said Nocera, principal investigator for the Solar Revolution Project funded by the Chesonis Family Foundation and co-Director of the Eni-MIT Solar Frontiers Center. "The scientific community is really going to run with this."

    Nocera hopes that within 10 years, homeowners will be able to power their homes in daylight through photo voltaic cells, while using excess solar energy to produce hydrogen and oxygen to power their own household fuel cell. Electricity-by-wire from a central source could be a thing of the past.

    The project is part of the MIT Energy Initiative, a program designed to help transform the global energy system to meet the needs of the future and to help build a bridge to that future by improving today's energy systems. MITEI Director Ernest Moniz, Cecil and Ida Green Professor of Physics and Engineering Systems, noted that "this discovery in the Nocera lab demonstrates that moving up the transformation of our energy supply system to one based on renewables will depend heavily on frontier basic science."

    The success of the Nocera lab shows the impact of a mixture of funding sources - governments, philanthropy, and industry. This project was funded by the National Science Foundation and by the Chesonis Family Foundation, which gave MIT $10 million this spring to launch the Solar Revolution Project, with a goal to make the large scale deployment of solar energy within 10 years.
    The thread became a discussion of politics, how about the merits of the technique

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    I saw one the other day where some kid used Human Hair instead of silicone.

    And before that someone in Australia found a way to "print" solar panels using an inkjet printer modded out or something crazy like that.


    And yet..... things like this happen every few months and we never see any results *cough cough* BIG OIL *cough cough*

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