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  1. #11
    spam Guest

    how much HHO gas?

    I have been doing my research, and no one seems to address the basic question of how much. Seems like around 1 liter of gas per minute is about right for about 2 to 2.5 L of displacement. Does that sound right?

    Also the amount of gas would be directly related to RPM.

    Is there an optimal amount of gas for a 5.9 liter Dodge ram? At 70 MPH, would it run as efficiently using the same 1 liters/min running at around 1500 rpm - as would my Mazda B2300 running at 3000 rpm?

  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by spam View Post
    I have been doing my research, and no one seems to address the basic question of how much. Seems like around 1 liter of gas per minute is about right for about 2 to 2.5 L of displacement. Does that sound right?

    Also the amount of gas would be directly related to RPM.

    Is there an optimal amount of gas for a 5.9 liter Dodge ram? At 70 MPH, would it run as efficiently using the same 1 liters/min running at around 1500 rpm - as would my Mazda B2300 running at 3000 rpm?

    Actually, I run a 5.9 liter Ram. My output is ~1.5 LPM. I have noticed an increase of 7 MPG. I believe 2LPM would be better, but your going to need more than one Generator to accomplish that. Most people actually create less than 1LPM and still see gains. In a small unit 1LPM is easily done, but not easily sustainable for any length of time.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    Why is it hard to sustain that?

  4. #14
    spob Guest
    Heat will kill a small system fast. If you could run with a resevoir and find a way to circulate it, then you could actively cool the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom240 View Post
    Why is it hard to sustain that?
    My deffinition of a "small system" doesnt contain active cooling. Hence why I say its difficult to maintain a 1LPM output. I am not saying it cant be done, it just involves more than just a mason jar genny normally without some sort of method to cool the liquid.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

  6. #16
    ELECTR0N3RD Guest
    What if someone could get ahold of say quarter inch thick SS with demensions of say 3 feet by 4 feet, and have them stacked up vertically (sides facing up) of 20 or so plates and running power off of the alternator? would this work to power a car?, also run the line to the fuel line or fuel pump or something, this would fit in my trunk, or better yet use a pickup truck and make one large enough to fit in the bed and use an extremely large altenator to power it, does any one know if this is too far fetched? just a thought.

  7. #17
    Aximili Guest
    both the H2 and O2 are combusted, that is why it is nesessary to 'adjust' your oxygen sensor, so that your engine does not pump more fuel to compensate

  8. #18
    dennis13030 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by ELECTR0N3RD View Post
    What if someone could get ahold of say quarter inch thick SS with demensions of say 3 feet by 4 feet, and have them stacked up vertically (sides facing up) of 20 or so plates and running power off of the alternator? would this work to power a car?, also run the line to the fuel line or fuel pump or something, this would fit in my trunk, or better yet use a pickup truck and make one large enough to fit in the bed and use an extremely large altenator to power it, does any one know if this is too far fetched? just a thought.
    I am thinking about doing this type of unit. I'm not really too interested in fitting it to my car at this time. However I do want to test some theories with it.

    Theories To Test
    1. With a large amount of active surface area and low power in, can I get good production? Surface area hmmm... lets say more than 50,000 sq. in. Power hmmm...let's say under 100W, production hmmm...let's say 5-10 L/m.
    2. Effects of plate spacing.
    3. Effects of using a constant current source.
    4. Effects of using neutral plates.
    5. Effects of using different types of water.
    6. Effects of using different types of electrolyte additives.
    7. Temperature effects.
    8. Effect of using various Voltages and currents.
    9. Use of AC and DC.
    10. Effects of using different types of plates.

  9. #19
    volomike Guest

    ticket

    That's the ticket, Dennis. Be more scientific about this. Workbench it and share your results. That's what we're planning to do. (Been so busy with our day jobs, though, for now.)

  10. #20
    joshsbrain Guest
    wow, this is my new favorite place on the internet...We should all just get together like one of those govmt think tanks and start a HHOCORP. lol

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