Police Interceptors

[228Robinson]

Hello,

I've been tasked with finding ways to decrease my department's spending. I heard about HHO through a buddy and was curious to know whether anyone had installed this technology on a police interceptor. Specifically, for our 2001-2003 P71 Crown Vics. Our ECUs are programmed somewhat differently from stock to deal with the interceptor package and I don't know whether that would be an issue.

If anyone has specific information regarding a kit and whether it would work with our interceptors, it would be greatly appreciated.

[myoldyourgold]

I've been tasked with finding ways to decrease my department's spending. I heard about HHO through a buddy and was curious to know whether anyone had installed this technology on a police interceptor. Specifically, for our 2001-2003 P71 Crown Vics. Our ECUs are programmed somewhat differently from stock to deal with the interceptor package and I don't know whether that would be an issue.

If anyone has specific information regarding a kit and whether it would work with our interceptors, it would be greatly appreciated.

What state are you in? It is possible. The interceptor programing does make it a little different but still doable.

[nst6563]

1 way to find out

If they're willing to subject one as a test vehicle then why not work towards it.

If you succeed with a proof of concept - they may be willing to go forward with it, and then also get the ECU's adjusted.

I do see a couple issues though. The first being maintenance. Just like oil and washer fluid, it must be checked and maintained as well - probably the same interval as every other tankful of gas (just guessing).

Second would be funding. To fund a proof of concept, they'll want hard data of actual improvements on other vehicles. Then to proceed past the proof of concept will require more funding - which as you can guess will be directly proportional to how well the proof of concept performs. If the cost of retrofitting the concept vehicle including ECU adjustments pays for itself in a years worth of gas - there may be a chance. The newer the cruisers are, the better the chances. If the cruisers are going to be retired soon, they'll likely not approve funding for it.

3rd downfall - If the concept does do extremely well, surpasses expectations, and funding is approved and the fleet retrofitted and money is saved...most likely the only thing you'll get is a coffee mug with a handle made of old cuffs and your name written on the side with permanent marker


It really all boils down to politics and dollar signs

[228Robinson]

To be clear, our department can't really do 'funding', per se. Our yearly budget hasn't increased since 2008. I work for a very small department; our fleet consists of 8 cars and a D.A.R.E. trailer. Thus the 2001-2003 range... they're all hand-me-downs from IMPD.

And as I'm the one in charge of finding new ways to save long-term money, it will probably be my car that gets experimented upon.

It's either find a way to save gas, or we're trading in one of the cruisers for bicycles. I do not want this.

[myoldyourgold]

Are you going to do the install and tuning yourself? Again what state are you in?

[nst6563]

Sounds like you don't have much upper end political crap to deal with then. That opens the floodgates for options

IMPD ---That's Indy Metro right? What outlying area are you in? I have a buddy up there that may have an interest in helping, he hasn't built his own reactor yet (waiting for me to blow myself up so he can learn from my mistakes haha) but does all his own vehicle work and is interested in the concept.

Do you have any equipment for HHO already? Were you going to build the cell yourself or purchase one pre-made?

[228Robinson]

It'll be me doing the installation and maintenance on this little endeavor. I am in Indiana, yes. I went ahead and ordered a kit from mileageshop.com simply because they have a lifetime warranty and, chances are, it's going to see enough use to warrant replacement. They claim that there's no need to use any ECU chips or any of that stuff, so perhaps I can get this to work with less time spent under the dash in 98 degree weather. $300 I can live with.