Plate Configuration issue

[BioFarmer93]

I just figured that bubbles = hydrogen. Lots of bubbles = lots of hydrogen. Lots of hydrogen = good. I'm trying to be as careful as I can, but once school starts up again and I can get some lab time in a safe (not a three seasons porch workshop) environment.
How inefficient is a wet cell? Like "oh this is the worst thing ever" or "meh, this will do". I'm a bike mechanic, so when people say one crank is less efficient than the other, they are talking about weight, stiffness, and speed. But both do the job. Will a wet cell still be good enough for my research?

In a word, no. If this is for a research paper then you will want the most efficiency & best output for the least input of electrical energy, right? Wet cells are less than half as efficient as dry cells, especially well thought out and well made dry cells.

[Outmodeduser]

So, I built and tested the wet cell shown in the picture, and well, guess what... it worked. Thanks guys, I look forward to tinkering with it and getting more output!

And Biofarmer93, I would love to build a dry cell, but I think for the time being (due to cost and time restrictions) I am going to just make the wet cell as efficient as possible. Its probably not perfect, but its a start.

Thanks for all your help, and I look forward to playing with my cell .

[myoldyourgold]

Oh, as I edit this, I would like to point out that this whole hydrogen cell project I am working on is a research methods project on weather or not you can see a increase in fuel efficiency in a vehicle from using a hydrogen cell. Obviously I am just getting started, and there is more to it. Is there any scientific studies that have been published about this that describe the process? Any reliable scientific sources that I could cite in my study?

By using an inefficient system you will see little to no results. The fact that you most likely will prove is that it takes more power to make the gas than you get in return. What are you going to test it on? A bike or a car? Most bikes produce so little current that you really need a very efficient reactor to get any gains. Some of the larger bikes have big enough alternators to spare a few amps.

[Outmodeduser]

By using an inefficient system you will see little to no results. The fact that you most likely will prove is that it takes more power to make the gas than you get in return. What are you going to test it on? A bike or a car? Most bikes produce so little current that you really need a very efficient reactor to get any gains. Some of the larger bikes have big enough alternators to spare a few amps.

I will be using it in a car. I work on bicycles, the ones where you pedal haha. I laughed at the idea of an HHO generator on one...

So, I already have my plates, hardware, and the like, what more do I need for a dry cell. I have pvc, but that was mainly for an enclosure. I am trying to keep costs as low as possible too...

If it requires basically hitting a reset button on everything I have bought/worked on so far, I am just to busy to do that.

[Outmodeduser]

So, I just did some quick research, and learned about current bleeding from the positive to negative through the water instead of the plates. Makes sense to me.
What if I were to insulate the edges of the plates, would that do anything?

[myoldyourgold]

So, I just did some quick research, and learned about current bleeding from the positive to negative through the water instead of the plates. Makes sense to me.
What if I were to insulate the edges of the plates, would that do anything?

Eureka!

The best way figured out to solve this problem to date is what is called a dry cell with Weld-on 16 insulating the ports. Well you are making head way. That is why we recommended you start there to begin with.