Build with stuff around the house

[hypertek]

Well I am still cutting the plates out, but i couldn't help but to try it in a wet setup, i know the electrolyte probably wasnt the greatest (tap water and baking soda in a detergent bin. ) .. but i think this is cool haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y71wgqlmxac

[Havens78]

It is a lot of fun to see this stuff work, just be careful.

[hypertek]

So far I cut 12 plates, will be neutrals, then I will cut 3 more for the positive and negative. Now I was thinking to keep them rectangle with a little tab on the top left or right corner for a female crimp terminal instead of cutting the corners of the neutrals.

My cutting board is pretty thin that I'm using for the end pieces, just under 1/4 inch, so I will see about cutting metal backing plate to support it (i got some old filing cabinet I can scrap from ) maybe paint those with some left over spray paint to make it look real good.

[Zarko]

OK guys, two things here.. First, 4 bipolar (N) plates is not enough, that will put your voltage per cell (VpC) at 2.76V. This wastes electrical production (alternator drag & heat in cell), electrolyte (steam), & time (yours). It also gives false production numbers. Use 6 bipolar (N) plates, this puts your VpC @ 1.97V which is pretty much optimal.

I agree with you, but this cell with 4 bipolar (N) plates has a "little bit" faster response when you drive on shorter distances. I also have that with with 6 N plates and it takes a quite of time to reach it's maximum of production.

[lhazleton]

Zarko,
A reactor with less than 6 bi-polar plates is nothing but a steam machine. Regardless of driving time, efficiency is efficiency.Period. If built well, a 7 or 8 cell reactor's production is instantaneous. Gus already explained this.
Hypertek,
1/4" cutting board isn't gonna cut it. Besides being too flexible, there wont be enough threaded area for the connectors to seal. Using panels from an old filing cabinet will also flex easily. The endplates must be extremely stiff.
I looked at the link for the S/S you plan on using, and there's no mention as to what type of steel is used. If it's not 304 or 316 with an "L" rating, it'll wear out quickly and most likely contaminate the electrolyte with lots of gunk.
Also, using crimp terminals is kind of a Bozo-NoNo. They tend to loosen & can give you one headache after another. Using a #8 screw will be worth the effort.

[Zarko]

Zarko,
A reactor with less than 6 bi-polar plates is nothing but a steam machine. Regardless of driving time, efficiency is efficiency.Period. If built well, a 7 or 8 cell reactor's production is instantaneous. Gus already explained this.

Depends, on how much electrolyte and how many amps man use for 1 lit/min HHO. Look at this page: http://autodijagnostika.biz/forum/viewforum.php?id=33. The forum is in croatian language, but you can contact for example guy called danek, who has achived 1 lit/min HHO with 8A and 1/4 teaspoon of NaOH in 1 lit of water. Almost the same result I also have. Latest Mr. Danek's work is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvui4...ature=youtu.be. With 30A, 2.4 lit/min HHO and 28% KOH you will have steam always regardless the number of plates.

[hypertek]

what is the typical degradation rate? few hours, days , weeks? maybe I can cut some extra pieces and make a wet setup and have that run for a few hours a day to test it out. Maybe I can call the manufacturer and ask what kind of stainless steel it is.

[hypertek]

Ok i just got off the phone with them, they said it is 301 grade.

[lhazleton]

301 has a high carbon content. It will work, but everything will most likely get coated with crap over a short period. Take the setup that you used in your video, but put it in a mix of distilled water and KOH or NaOh instead of baking soda. Run it at 13.8vdc for a while and check for discoloration on the plates and in the e/lyte. The 301 probably won't work well, but since you already have it cut up, ya might as well give it a try. Good luck!

[BioFarmer93]

Depends, on how much electrolyte and how many amps man use for 1 lit/min HHO. Look at this page: http://autodijagnostika.biz/forum/viewforum.php?id=33. The forum is in croatian language, but you can contact for example guy called danek, who has achived 1 lit/min HHO with 8A and 1/4 teaspoon of NaOH in 1 lit of water. Almost the same result I also have. With 30A, 2.4 lit/min HHO and 28% KOH you will have steam always regardless the number of plates.

OK then.. Well, best of luck to you, live long and prosper.