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    BAD MEDICINE Guest

    Spot my problem, please!

    with the following configuration and details.

    +NN-NN- with stainless straps carrying the current. Straps are covered to within 1/2 inch of contacts.

    Catalyst( eloctrolyte) is sodium hdroxide 2 teaspoons in 1 litre of tap water.

    we are running at 9 or 10 amps.

    We are only getting 400 mml pm.

    I have seen similar configurations posted here and on youtube that are getting 1.0 -1.3 LPM.

    A little help please.

    This is the one that is going on the 600 cc bike, so for this it is fine, but it should produce more!

    Thanks

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    Blinger101 Guest
    The plate configuration I think should be +NN-NN+. That just seems to be a common configuration from what I've read.

    Also, maybe up the amperage a tiny bit? What's the voltage running at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAD MEDICINE View Post
    with the following configuration and details.

    +NN-NN- with stainless straps carrying the current. Straps are covered to within 1/2 inch of contacts.

    Catalyst( eloctrolyte) is sodium hdroxide 2 teaspoons in 1 litre of tap water.

    we are running at 9 or 10 amps.

    We are only getting 400 mml pm.

    I have seen similar configurations posted here and on youtube that are getting 1.0 -1.3 LPM.

    A little help please.

    This is the one that is going on the 600 cc bike, so for this it is fine, but it should produce more!

    Thanks
    You should run +NN-NN+ or +NNN-NNN+.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    You should certainly be getting much more production by changing the plate config to the above recomended, you will likely be getting much more current draw that way, too...

    You may want to re-evaluate your electrolyte mixture...It may be a bit strong, but then again, I am new to using the Potasium and Sodium Hydroxide and haven gotten a chance to really full on and out and out experiment with them yet, but all that I have learned here so far, is that you may be using a bit much and will likely overheat very quickly when you do change your plate config.

    Also, the battery and charging system that you are using may be a factor...Is it running on the 600cc bike already or is that test from a car battery, or a charger? They may also make a difference as there is less amperage available in the smaller battery and charging system in the bike...
    "You don't always have to know ALL the answers, but you do need to know where to find them."

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    BAD MEDICINE Guest
    Hey Guys,

    My dad posted under my name

    The configuration IS currently +nn-nn+

    But we still have the problem with poor production.

    Sorry for the misinformation. I think he has early onset dimentia . Ill have to set him up his own account here.


    With the configuration as shown above, what could be the cause?

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    Question

    Electrolyte?

    What current?

    Boyntonstu

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    daveczrn Guest
    im thinkin either you didn't sand the plates in an x pattern to give more surface area(very benificial) orthe amperage isnt high enough

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    BAD MEDICINE Guest

    Early onset dementia, huh

    About the above post...

    Sorry my son is so touchy about my mistake, I think maybe he has late onset 'frontal lobe cranial development' (influences responses, manners, personality orders or disorders...) that should be done by about age 17 and he is past that! Or maybe I just mis-remembered and that was me also!

    If I can remember I will set up my own account...now what was I doing?

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    Pictures of the cell would help. Also, information on electrolyte mixture, and current draw.
    2006 Ram, 5.9 cummins HO. 4 cell design, 1.5 LPM@30amp, 24.3 MPG

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    BAD MEDICINE Guest
    OK good news!

    It was my power supply!

    I was using a battery charger.

    But today I hooked it up to the car.

    800 Milliters Per Minute may not be spectacular but a lot closer to what I was expecting.

    roughly 20 amps ( i dont have a way to measure amps) we just kept backing off on the electrolyte mixture until it quit blowing 20 amp fuses.

    Voltage was probably around 12-13v

    So 800 ml per minute should help my .65 liter motorcylce engine

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