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    Peugeot Expert 1.9D

    My car is a Peugeot Expert 1.9D 2001 and use it every day for 100km to go to work.
    It has a 80 Ltr dieseltank and uses 1 liter diesel at 10Km.
    The KM with a full gastank is around 800Km.

    Installed a HHO Drycell 2000 kit, with a PWM.

    Generator Type: Dry Cell;

    - Standard dimensions: 110x110x150 mm;

    - Plates: 21;

    - Voltage: 12V;

    - Standard electrical connections of the cell:

    + NNNN - NNNN + NNNN - NNNN + (N - neutral plate)

    - Total area for gas production: 1297 cm2;

    - Production of Hydrogen: 2.0 liters per minute (25A);

    - Optimum operation current: 12 - 15 A.


    The usage of diesel went from 1:10KM to 1:14KM by every day use.
    Full tank went to +/- 1100KM

    Still i think it can be better, but first i want to tune de air-intake.

    Greetings Bob

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    These are pretty amazing results taking into consideration that your cell is not the most efficient.

    Are you controlling the O2 sensors in any way ?

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    No, im not controlling any sensor's, because there are no O2 sensor's on this engine.
    It's a mechanical diesel, so i can't change anything about that.

    What i tried to do was resetting the ecu-computer, if that did anything, i do not no.

    The car is starting better and makes less noise, more "power" of the engine.

    The exhaust-gasses are much cleaner, when you hold a white tissue against the end of the exhaust, it stay's clean.

    What i trying to do, is tune the (original) air-intake.

    greetings Bob

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    If you ever get bored of tuning HHO, you can always add a water vapour injection system to your car.

    I heard that Turbos love water

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    Hi

    Could you give us the active area surface of one plate, one side

    active area = plate dimension - gasket - holes

    Regards
    Civic Si 4 doors 2004, 1.7 liters V-TEC
    5N2 reactor
    CCPWM @ 7 amp
    1 Gal Capacity
    ~2% NaOH
    Waterless Peat Moss Bubbler

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    Hi,

    I don't no the active area of the plate, because the generator is closed,
    But the size of the plate is 110x110mm (square), the active shape of the plate is round.
    Maybe you can figure out what the active area is.

    Greetings

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbysw20mr2 View Post
    Hi,

    I don't no the active area of the plate, because the generator is closed,
    But the size of the plate is 110x110mm (square), the active shape of the plate is round.
    Maybe you can figure out what the active area is.

    Greetings
    If the plates have round shape, presumably a circle of 4 "diameter.

    Active area = π * r * r = 3.1416 * 2 * 2 = 12.5 square inchs
    We should substract gasket and holes => ± 11 square inchs

    Max Amp of your reactor: 11 * 0.5 * 4 = 22 Amp


    Configuration with only 4 neutral plates in stacks, I feel that your generator produces HHO gas and water vapor. You send about 2.8 volts across each cell is enough. I would recommend, if possible, disassemble the reactor and opt for a configuration like +NNNNN-NNNNN+NNNNN- or +NNNNNN-NNNNNN+NNNNNN-. You might be able to further improve fuel economy


    Regards
    Civic Si 4 doors 2004, 1.7 liters V-TEC
    5N2 reactor
    CCPWM @ 7 amp
    1 Gal Capacity
    ~2% NaOH
    Waterless Peat Moss Bubbler

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    I was thinking about the same thing. But I also thought that the extra steam that the reactor produces must have positive consequences on the engine since he got such good results.

    However, ideal would be to have an efficient reactor that doesn't produce steam, and have a separate water injection system.

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    Hi,

    I don't think that the generator produce any steam, because it stay's very cool


    Hi Whear,

    can you tel me more about water vapour, can i use this with HHO

    Will it improve fuel economy???

    Greetings Bob

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    Hi,


    Here is a website with many info on water injection.

    There's also a very comprehensive DIY guide.

    http://www.turbomirage.com/water.html

    The author of the site talks more about the power that water gives to a turbocharged/supercharged engine.

    However, there is evidence that not only it gives more power, but can also reduce gas consumption.

    And it's good for non-turbos as well.

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