Electrode Configuration

[rmptr]

TrueValue hardware store chain?

or Ace hardware chain stores?

probably 12 -14 cents each for small SS nuts.

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OK... I just returned from local True Value hardware store...

A company named Hillman stocks the TV nut& bolt selection. The guys were there... SS is grade 304.

10-32 x 2" =16c
10-32 nut = 16c
#10 flat w = 16c
large flat w= 30c
Nylon wash= 5c
Nylon nuts = 20c
1/4-20x2 nylon bolt=30c

Roebic brand Drain Opener. Sodium Hydroxide, Lye, is $5 for one quart liquid.

Forgot to check SS blank outlet cover plates, but they are $1.59 @ Home Depot.

Adjustable barbed irrigation bubblers go from 80c to $2.30 each.

Still no source for a single one quart wide mouth Ball Mason canning jar. A case of 12 is $10...

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[h-power]

I'm using a +nnnnnn--nnnnnn+ arrangement. At 1 tsp of KOH per gallon this unit draws about 5 amps cold and 12 warmed up to operating temp 130. I have it running on full manifold vacuum.

It's pushing out 700ml/min but I haven't installed an o2 enhancer yet. On my friends 6.5 diesel his mileage increased nearly 50%.

electron3rd, I bench test my cells for continuity and resistance. I suspect if you check you'll find an open somewhere in your neutrals or high resistance at one of your connections.

[troymacdonald]

I have changed my configuration to this:
-nn+nn-nn+

this generates a fair output. I ran the generator output through a bubbler and got a steady flow so I tried to light the outlet of the bubbler just to see if I got anything. Well, it popped and shot a small amount of water back into the hose coming from the generator.

The main reason I don't add another 3 plates is due to the length of my nylon bolts. I might have to get creative in my bolt arrangement as I am certain that the 13 plate set up will give me the output I'm looking for.

Also, I'm using SS wall plates which I find work really well. The problem I'm running into is that as I cut notches out for the SS bolt connections and drill holes, the start to get a little warped around the curved edges. To fix this I'm thinking about taking all of my plates and pounding the edges flat so they will be easier to work with.

[h-power]

I had exactly that problem. Drilling the holes and buying different wall plates that have slightly different shapes then sanding these curved surfaces compounded the problem. So I went to a sheet metal fabricator and had them make me plates that were flat, drilled exactly to size and sanded. Each plate cost me less than HD or Lowes. Now assembly is quicker and more accurate.

Had a look at the electrical junction box at Lowes. Its made of PVC which will melt at 150 degrees. Found another made of glass reinforced polypropylene that melts at 360 degrees and has a watertight seal. Its triple the price but much more applicable.

[troymacdonald]

I am looking into some local sheet metal fabricators as well. My budget is on the tight side so I'm making do with the wall plates for now. Today I got the install done on my truck but my plates decided to crap out on me.

Here is what I did:
First off I pounded them flat with small sledge. I have been using silicon sealant on my box and it has gunged up my two SS bolts pretty bad. These two bolts are my electrical connection to the plates. Since the local Lowes and Home Depot seem to be extremely lacking on SS hardware - especially bolts - I've been reduced to nylon bolts and SS washers. I think that what has happened is the build up on sealant on the bolts has made it more difficult for the current to pass from the bolts to the washers and then to the plates. SO tonight I'm cleaning the plates and bolts in water/vinegar mix and will look into a better arrangement tomorrow.

Its over a 100 outside and I'v been at this all freakin afternoon...I'm beat.

As far as the electrical box I'm using - know it has a lower melting point than what I would like. but I'm mounting it in front of my radiator in the space between the radiator and the front grill - '03 F150 - and it seems to be a really cool place to mount. When I'm able to I would like to get a contain of the sort you are talking about.

[rmptr]

Troy, I have a 00 F-150 with 4.2 V6 and 5spd.

What engine/trans do you have?

Pretty sure your ECM will be samo-samo as mine, so I'll watch your performance.

Did you do any EFIE stuff yet?

I wish I could spring for a scangageII... Got no budget for it now.
One good job would get me a cash surplus to do it!

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[h-power]

If I'm not mistaken the scangageII is only a monitoring device. Does it have the ability to allow you to alter ECU input signals like an EFIE??

[Omega]

If I'm not mistaken the scangageII is only a monitoring device. Does it have the ability to allow you to alter ECU input signals like an EFIE??

The ScangaugeII allows you to read trouble codes, turn off the Check Engine Light and on certain makes of cars read many different engine/performance parameters. The most useful function for HHO fans is the MPG feature that allows you to see, in real time, what your fuel usage is. See the website for all the info.

Heres the website: http://www.scangauge.com/

[troymacdonald]

rmptr;
I just put my generator in my truck. Here is what I did and how I did it:
- I located the generator in front of the radiator but behind the grill. To do this I had to use my Dremmel and cut some of the fiberglass frame - not too much and nothing visibly deforming.
- Ran a on/off power switch into the cab directly off the battery and put a 30A fuse inline to the load.
- In my generator I'm using a -nn+nn-nn+nn- configuration that puts a steady stream through my bubbler.
- For right now I'm running the HHO line straight into my air intake as close to the to throttle plate as possible and behind the MAF sensor.

So far the most I've run the truck on HHO is backing it out of the garage yesterday. I plan on a short trip around town today to see if there is any change in fuel economy.

[h-power]

I thought that was the case but just wanted to verify. I already have an $8,000 computer that has all that info and more on it. What I am looking for is a good set of plans to build an under dash EFIE for the O2 sensor enhancer.