There needs to be the same no of molecules of water being acted on on each plate.
When the Oxygen is released two hydrogen ions are also released.
When the hydrogen is released something happens to the oxygen but I'll have to have a look and see what.
Although twice the volume of hydrogen is produced 8 times the mass of oxygen is produced !
I really don't know the correct answer. sounds like some experiments are needed.
John
It seems like plate area helps.
Adding neutral plates definitely helps at automobile voltages. I use a +nnnn-nnnn+ setup and it works pretty good. At 4 to 5 amps with 1 qt jar, I went from baseline 22.4 mpg in my 2.3 liter ranger to 30.8 mpg.
Just put a 1/2 gal bottle in at 5 to 7 amps, have to wait to fill up to give data on it.
I must say, up until now, i have understood most of what everyone has been talking about. You guys have now lost me. Y'all are smart and stuff......
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Could someone please explain the concept of neutral plates? I simply don't understand the benefit of plates basically not being utilized. If you have a configuration of -nn+nn- then how are you getting any reaction between the - & + plates? Is any gas generated between the neutral plates? How is -nn+nn- better than simply -+- ?
If you have an investment of 7 plates, wouldn't you get more gas production out of a -+-+-+- configuration?
Sorry for all the n00b questions, but I'm really curious about this.
Well the easiest way to explain the neutral plate thing is this.
By adding neutral plates to the mix, we are reducing the ammount of electric in the water, this reduces heat in the cell. Neutral plates will take on the polarity of the neigboring plates. I would guess that -nnn+nnn- would be the best producer in this example, but my experiments and many others as well have found that the +nnn-nnn+ config works out best. The down side is that we need to use a stronger electrolyte in order to produce the same ammount of gas.
Thats at least my understanding so far, and I am hoping that someone may correct me or add to this.
You also see alot of folks discussing PWM's or pulse with modulation. This will help control the ammount of electric in the water, too.
An alternative that I am experimenting with right now is increasing the ammount of water in the cell to over come the heat issue without needing the PWM or neutral plates. Although it may be a good idea to keep the neutral plates anyway because I think that it may put less stress on the alternator and battery in the car. Havent gotten that far with those experiments to see if there is any truth to the car parts stuff yet, but thats next.
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The amount of oxygen produced is equal to the amount of hydrogen. During the reaction, part of the anode is oxydized releasing an oxygen atom. That is why the anode falls apart after time, because part of it is being destroyed. Ok, i will attempt to expain why +-+ is better than -+-. It easy actually once you undetstand that electrons flow from negative to positive. +-+ is actually two circuits where as -+- is only one.
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