Which is the best plate configuration

Ok... so... I'm gonna experiment with another set-up but I don't have a flowmeter.... I want to get the most HHO gas using less than 30amps.... I have about 8 plates.....

Which would be the best configuration to get the most HHO?

1) + n n - n n +

2) + n n - - n n +

3) + - + - + - + -

4) + n - n + n -

[hydrotinkerer]

Originally Posted by JonDoh

Ok... so... I'm gonna experiment with another set-up but I don't have a flowmeter.... I want to get the most HHO gas using less than 30amps.... I have about 8 plates.....

Which would be the best configuration to get the most HHO?

1) + n n - n n +

2) + n n - - n n +

3) + - + - + - + -

4) + n - n + n -

Well that all depends on who you ask-everyone has differing opinions. Here goes-

#1 and #2 are the same, #2 extra "-" plate only produces on one side while #1 does so on both.
#3 produces very well, but with alot of heat and amp pull(unless a true series cell)
#4 ? Never tried that one

[FuzzyTomCat]

Originally Posted by hydrotinkerer

Well that all depends on who you ask-everyone has differing opinions. Here goes-

#1 and #2 are the same, #2 extra "-" plate only produces on one side while #1 does so on both.
#3 produces very well, but with alot of heat and amp pull(unless a true series cell)
#4 ? Never tried that one

I tried #1 and #2

#1 produced more heat for some reason on the (-) negitive terminal averaged 10 degrees more.

#2 Is what I use on my unit which produces a minimum 1 LPM 198 sq.in. surface area w/ .0625 plate spacing.

From what I have been reading, the closer the plates are the less draw in terms of relative hho production. I have done 1 and 3. The 3 was a definite producer, but I wasnt using good electrolyte. Plate spacing and the concentration of electrolyte will allow you to adjust the cell for the best bang for the buck.

[FuzzyTomCat]

Originally Posted by IronBear

From what I have been reading, the closer the plates are the less draw in terms of relative hho production. I have done 1 and 3. The 3 was a definite producer, but I wasnt using good electrolyte. Plate spacing and the concentration of electrolyte will allow you to adjust the cell for the best bang for the buck.

Hi IronBear,

The #3 is mostly used for brute force type Oxyhydrogen (HHO) gas generators ( give it as much as it can take )

I use #2 because of the "distilled white vinegar" in the Oxyhydrogen (HHO) gas generator I use. The reason being because of the .0625 plate gap and the Electrolyte being totally ECO friendly ( dump it on you and smell like a pickle and not get your skin burnt off or go blind ).

I always go safety first, to many little kids around "eye" level and curious, couldn't live with a accident hurting anyone for just for some HHO.

Regards,
Fuzzy

SUPER THANKS guys for all the input!!!! Very informative!!

I think I'm gonna go with #2 since a couple of you have tried that & seem to have some success.... I'll use vinegar & water to keep the temp down a bit. My plates aren't completely straight so I'll use two of those .062 washers in between the plates

One of these days I'll quit being a NOOB & get me a flow meter

Waht about

+nnnnnn--nnnnn+
or
+nnnnn-nnnnn+
Would the second - in the middle help or take away

[hydrotinkerer]

Originally Posted by Bossman

Waht about

+nnnnnn--nnnnn+
or
+nnnnn-nnnnn+
Would the second - in the middle help or take away

The double neg. in the first one produces on only one side. The single neg. on the second one produces on both sides.

I have been playing with two cells with:
1- +nn-nn+
2- +nn--nn+

The only difference I have noticed is a slight temp difference. #2 being a little lower. I used same electrolite measurements in both. I mixed up the electrolite in one container and split it between the two cells.

Originally Posted by Bossman

Waht about

+nnnnnn--nnnnn+
or
+nnnnn-nnnnn+
Would the second - in the middle help or take away

yea... with this project... I only had eight plates....

I did the +nn--nn+ like several others recommended.... works GREAT in my 4 cylinder (25mpg to 40mpg)

NOW you can help me on my NEW project with 24 plates =)

http://hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1381

I am currently using a 9 plate dry cell. I have tried two different configurations.

#1) +nnn-nnn+
#2) -nnn+nnn-

To my suprise the the #2 configuration was visually pruducing quite a bit more hho. I dont have a flowmeter built yet to verify my findings. I am using baking soda (1/8 cup per liter) and tap water and a battery charger set at 12v. Water only gets warm to the touch on either configuration.

Has anyone else tried this configuration? same results?